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[Drakeero]

I was using Reveal and yes, one late night I forgot to unreveal before I unpaused.  FPS apocalypse.  Big lag spike, hovered at 5 for a little bit.  I un-revealed and tried to play anyway.  As time went on to the fps slowly recovered all the way back up to 20.  Given certain "..... is no longer enraged" and an incredible clown roster on my deceased list I'm wondering if they went beserk like merchants do with no pathing options and killed a bunch of each other off for me.

Well, after holding steady at 20 for awhile, it's beginning to drop back down again.  First to 15 where it evened out for a little bit, and now back down to 10.  Just a few minutes ago it began flickering to 9 fps.  Are more clowns entering the map or something right now and making things worse?

I'm currently preparing a project to rid me of this mess but if the fps drops too low before I can finish it I'll have to abandon...

EDIT: Disabling weather [its always raining here] and temperature got me about 2 extra FPS. 

[bungler]

I was under the impression that the clowns come in piecemeal, not in a clown car. You may have awoken something -deeper- in your Reveal...

[Drakeero]

Something... -deeper-?

Why does that want to make me think of Duke Nukem 3D when I'm working my way through a level and I can hear a battlelord or an overlord nearby going -clunk clunk clunk-

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Ah, maybe its because I misunderstood what a clown car was.  When the clowns discovered my scan there was a 4x4 block of them, each square was several clowns thick.  Some had like 3, others went on forever.  Only saw one 4x4 block before I unrevealed but my unit list showed about 150+ clowns before I got tired of counting them all.  I'm kinda tempted to reveal again just to peek and see how many of the little buggers are running around down there now.

EDIT:

I am very gravely disappointed, but it appears the mystery has been partially solved.

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My theory: Upon discovery the zombie and skeletal hordes held up in the candy land fortress immediately rushed out into the third cavern layer and were summarily annihilated by the locals.  Maybe a ton of antmen which I haven't found yet.  The clowns, unable to path to sweet, succulent dwarven flesh seem to have gone insane much like merchants will if kept trapped for too long and the carnival is a bit of a graveyard with clown corpses scattered around.  The second FPS apocalypse that occurred might be from the game having to calculate the insane amounts of miasma down there.

Which means that I am now possibly crossing into the boundary of over-preparation in my gigantic plan to assault the depths of the earth.

[bungler]

Ah,

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I get your meaning of clown now, as i was using "clown" for FB. Your clowns DO come in a car and it happens directly after tapping candyland. Which makes me think that Reveal triggers this. The fact that they are dead is still a mystery, and I don't think that mere Ant-men can stand up to them.
If you go down there and you see no bodies, they were killed by a cave-in (which you would have seen in the alerts). Other than that... Pretty odd. Go directly down there, tap CL through a spire and see if you spawn more.
 

[Drakeero]

Ah,

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I get your meaning of clown now, as i was using "clown" for FB. Your clowns DO come in a car and it happens directly after tapping candyland. Which makes me think that Reveal triggers this. The fact that they are dead is still a mystery, and I don't think that mere Ant-men can stand up to them.
If you go down there and you see no bodies, they were killed by a cave-in (which you would have seen in the alerts). Other than that... Pretty odd. Go directly down there, tap CL through a spire and see if you spawn more.
 

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Oh yeah, tons and tons of dead clowns.  I actually have a Candyland Castle rather then a cotton candy spire.  It was the mass of zombies inside that seemed to evacuate out into the caverns and pick fights which are now filling stuff with miasma.  The Candy Sword is untouched, all cotton candy spires are untouched, Candyland has been completely unbreached and yet the clowns have died like flies and my FPS continues to plummet.  I'm going to get an early start on my salvage plans to try to clear out whatever's left in the caverns to see if that buys me enough FPS relief to storm Candyland.

[bungler]

What are your plans for... 

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tapping below the castle? I seem to have a rather successful method of taking most out in a fell swoop. I dig a huge spiral between 2 layers of solid stone, perhaps 30 x 30 square spiral, and put a cat on a rope in the middle. I put in 2 drawbridges, one to get into the spiral and one to block off anything in the spiral. Then I make sure to create a passage out of the castle/spire that leads right into the spiral. I put in a lever and assign it to a milker who is allowed to dig. I set the lever on Pull/Repeat and then close the entrance gate once he gets into the spiral. Cancel pulling, make him pull sword or dig into candyland, and they clowns take him out and then make a big long conga line for the cat. Once they are all in the spiral, I close the gate. FPS is really bad at this point. I then dig out over the top of the z-level above the spiral (leaving one solid level above the spiral), and below it (leaving one level of solid rock below the spiral), support it with a support and then collapse it. FPS back up to normal, then.

[Drakeero]

What are your plans for... 

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tapping below the castle? I seem to have a rather successful method of taking most out in a fell swoop. I dig a huge spiral between 2 layers of solid stone, perhaps 30 x 30 square spiral, and put a cat on a rope in the middle. I put in 2 drawbridges, one to get into the spiral and one to block off anything in the spiral. Then I make sure to create a passage out of the castle/spire that leads right into the spiral. I put in a lever and assign it to a milker who is allowed to dig. I set the lever on Pull/Repeat and then close the entrance gate once he gets into the spiral. Cancel pulling, make him pull sword or dig into candyland, and they clowns take him out and then make a big long conga line for the cat. Once they are all in the spiral, I close the gate. FPS is really bad at this point. I then dig out over the top of the z-level above the spiral (leaving one solid level above the spiral), and below it (leaving one level of solid rock below the spiral), support it with a support and then collapse it. FPS back up to normal, then.

I'm not a good enough player yet to pull off grand stuff like that, and the 2nd and 3rd layer caverns are bunched up extremely close around so there's barely any room to do anything like that.  This is gonna sound like a cheat, and yes it is a cheap hack/edit, but I removed a LOT of [TRAPAVOID] tokens.  I'm just going to use tons and tons of cage traps.  The only reason why I don't feel more guilty for cheating that way is because I have a sort of fetish for cage traps.... god I love those things.  My only fear are dusts, vapors, and all sorts of nasty stuff which I hope will not leak out of the cages on the way to the storage room.

EDIT: Down to 6 fps.  I ran dfcleanmap in case the game was getting bogged down with infinite dust trails from some of the clowns but it didn't seem to help at all.

EDIT 2: Tempted to just use Runesmith's "nuke" button.  See if that will help any.

[bungler]

Ohhh, umm, good luck with that...

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 Clowns ignore cages ...

[Drakeero]

Ohhh, umm, good luck with that...

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 Clowns ignore cages ...

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Yeah, but I decompressed the save, used World Tinker 3 to extract the world.sav file, accessed the clowns, and mass-deleted [TRAPAVOID] tokens so unless there's some other thing hardcoded to make them ignore cage it should work right?

[bungler]

Never tried that, actually. Let us know how it goes!

[Drakeero]

Well, first I need to establish myself in the 3rd cavern and the upper floors of the

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dark fortress.

.  Once I've made sure that my location is secure I am going to set up the next wave of traps and open up the basement.

[Fanklok]

Make them trainable too.

[Kiktamo]

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Good news is at least from my experience with reveal and clowns (as well as runesmith in some cases) It appears that after the first set of clowns the hfs only spawns 3 clowns at a time soooo there's a good chance getting rid of them will help your fps for a long while and your alteration with world tinkerer should make it a lot easier.

[Drakeero]

Make them trainable too.

well... being LAZY I didn't go through and manually remove [TRAPAVOID] for every single one.  I did a find/replace with [PET] so yeah....


also has the side benefit of making all 867 forgotten beasts in my world trainable.

If it had deadly dusts, vapors, or what have you its going to the elves.

[Kiktamo]

Well you could also build a sort of self somewhat contained arena and pit them against things you can't train.