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[Jackrabbit]

Yeah, I had this thought when I was like twelve and went 'holy crap i'm really philosophical and stuff i'm clever!'

Then after thinking about it I realized nothing changed and it wasn't even a particularly interesting idea. I'm not at all surprised to hear I'm not alone in this.

[Dwarf]

Oh please.

Make light which is, more or less, 400 nm. Everybody will tell you it's blue.

[Criptfeind]

And Dwarf misses the point completely!

[ChairmanPoo]

I suppose we'll be able to find out with absolute certainty once medical science progresses to the point where we can remove the entire eye and optic nerve of one person and put it in someone else.

Nope. It's the circuits behind that (particularily the calcarine cortex) that do the interpretation, so likely you'd get the same.

[smjjames]

Oh I'm pretty sure nearly all humans perceive colors the same. We're sort of the same animal after all.
We even know how dogs perceive colors, why not humans.

We also know that insects, birds, and some invertebrates can percieve the ultraviolet spectrum, and humans can't. At least not without special equipment. However we don't know how they percieve the colors in the ultraviolet spectrum simply because we can't see them.

Same goes for snakes which sense heat like its a second kind of vision (not sure if ALL snakes have it, but the group known as the vipers are best known for it), we don't know how they percieve it, but we can get a pretty good idea with Infrared photography.

Edit: Just checked wiki and it evolved in different lineages, the Pit Vipers and some boas and pythons.

[Fossaman]

Nope. It's the circuits behind that (particularily the calcarine cortex) that do the interpretation, so likely you'd get the same.

In that case you just need partial brain transplants. Or, more likely, partial brain cloning and replacement for traumatic brain injuries. The first is mad science, the second perfectly sound hypothetical medicine.

[Muz]

Heh, if I view the blue as the same color as you view red and science proves this somehow... do I have a disorder if 90% of people also view it as my red?

[ChairmanPoo]

I dont think so, as it wouldn't affect your life in any meaningful way. It would just be a variant of the norm.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The first is mad science, the second perfectly sound hypothetical medicine.

Silence! Your pathetic reason will not stop me from transplanting partial brains! We will fuel it with the unlimited power of lightning!

Spoiler: MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! (click to show/hide)

[Aqizzar]

I'm too lazy to dig up an old Ozy and Millie strip with the exact sentence from the OP.  More's the pity, but whatever.  Point is, everyone has had this idea and realized it's nonsense.

It can be scientifically tested, because we have spectrometers, and we can look at eye-cells and nerves.  Turns out, pretty much everyone's eyes and brains work about the same way, so there's no reason for anyone to same the same colors differently.

[Virex]

Oh I'm pretty sure nearly all humans perceive colors the same. We're sort of the same animal after all.
We even know how dogs perceive colors, why not humans.

We also know that insects, birds, and some invertebrates can percieve the ultraviolet spectrum, and humans can't. At least not without special equipment. 

Fun factoid: The human retina is actually receptive to parts of the near ultra-violet radiation, but it's blocked out by the lens. People who lack a lens sometimes report seeing into the ultraviolet, though focusing on it becomes harder of course.

[Criptfeind]

I can same the same if I want.

[Cthulhu]

Psh, you guys and your colors when you're 15.  When I was like four I went the whole nine yards with this.  What if not just colors, but everything is different from person to person?  Each individual perception of events is so wildly different from that of everyone else that no comparisons can be drawn, but sensory input is modified so even though what you're talking about is completely different from what I'm seeing, I hear your words as if you were seeing what I'm seeing.

So I see this computer as a shimmering golden disk that speaks in all consonants what you guys are saying, but when I talk about it it's automatically translated so it appears to you that I'm talking about the pool of sentient neuroslime that projects our communication directly into your brain.

So yeah, everything I do is cooler than what you do, even my ridiculous thought experiments.

[Jackrabbit]

I also did that, but then I got high off sugar and just ran around being a little shit.

[Bauglir]

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