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[Sykan]

... Okay, so I'm new to this forum! First post and such. Yay!

I've been playing in Dwarf Fortress mode for a bit now and I think I've gotten past the newbiest point. Now I just suck.

I've recently figured out how to use levers and pressure plates and I built my very first flooding chamber today. With the burrows function I can easily get someone... Unwanted, to go there and stay there until they die a very watery death. Since I haven't gotten any bitchy nobles yet, the only use it's seeing right now is to get a dwarf that has been adopted by a female kitten to stay in there until the kitten goes to bring him/her some vermin, at which point they're both locked in and drowned. (I think lurking these forums has had a negative effect on my sanity/morals)

However, my latest migrant wave had two dwarves that had been adopted by female kittens. I am having trouble getting both kittens inside the room at the same time and I can't be bothered to activate my deathtrap twice, despite the fact that it's semi-automatic (It only needs a pull of a lever to flood, and another pull of a lever once it has been drained to reset the floodgates for another use) because, well, I'd rather see three dwarves drown at once than two or one (One of the migrants came with a husband, and I'd rather prevent tantrums, so in they go as well before they make any friends) just to test this deathtrap's effectiveness, to see if my next project should be a collapsable trade depot with a flooding chamber below. At this point I pretty much hate elves. (Again, I think lurking these forums has had a negative effect on my sanity/morals)

My question, then, is this: If the adopted dwarf dies, does the kitten become butcherable again? Is it still marked as a pet of the deceased dwarf? Otherwise I just might have to kill the owners separately to kill the felines with them and avoid unnecessary trouble.

Thanks in advance 8D

[Clover Magic]

I do believe that if the owner is killed, you will get a notification that "such-and-such pet has become a stray animal" and you can butcher them.  I think.

[iceball3]

I do believe ownership is still left unrevoked, leaving it unbutcherable

[Clover Magic]

lol I wasn't sure, which is why I said it that way. :p

[Sykan]

Okay, so it seems I'm not gonna get a clear answer within the span of my patience :I

There is obviously only one way to solve this. -orders the lever to be pulled-

[Sphalerite]

I know from experience that when a pet's owner dies, that pet is butcherable again.  If you can get the cat to the chopping block before it adopts someone else, you can kill it that way.

[Pan]

I never got what the whole 'catsplosion' fuss is all about. I mean, maybe that single crazy cat dwarf has 100 cats and needs to be killed. Understood. But killing any dwarf with a single kitten?

I mean, you can immediately butcher them if they give birth later anyway, right (just gotta do it quick)? Keeps the soapmakers, leatherworkers, bone carvers and tanners busy, and employed dwarves are happy dwarves. And a fortress with a Idler:0 makes me happy. Not to mention how I never had a problem with too many kittens anyway (in fact, usually the case for me is with dogs, where I just don't feel like butchering extra recruits for the cannon fodder division.)

So what with all the fuss?

[Gnauga]

Some people don't keep track of their cats all that well. I personally make a habit of caging all cats once I have a suitable breeding set adopted. I suppose their auto-adopting just makes it all a bit of a pain to handle.

[Sykan]

Spores, mainly D: Also, this was odd. Once the owner was dead, the kitten was still counted as his pet. However, the kitten apparently went to deliver vermin to its owner, and, well... Flood Trap Victims: 7.

[Randy Gnoman]

I know from experience that when a pet's owner dies, that pet is butcherable again.  If you can get the cat to the chopping block before it adopts someone else, you can kill it that way.

This.  I kill lots of once-adopted cats.  After I pick out the useful immigrants, and send the rest to the starving chamber, I end up with a lot of orphaned pets.  Or, as I like to call them: soup!

Thanks to the policies of butchering every animal I can, and only feeding the dwarves that I like, I always end up with a surplus of food.

[Pan]

I wonder, are war animals the same? If their assigned dwarf is killed, (bad doggie! You were supposed to take that arrow!) do I get to assign them to another dwarf? Or are they unavailable for good?

[AngleWyrm]

Adoption is like marriage: It's forever. Even if the owner dies, the pet will still be a pet of a dead owner. They are very loyal.

Once the master is dead though, he or she won't get any unhappy thoughts from the death of a pet.

[Pan]

They are very loyal.

That sucks. Sad, too.

[FleshForge]

Only in the world of DF can you have a highly trained, disciplined, butch-as-fuck hardened killer get so bent out of shape because his cat died that he flips out and kills people.

[jei]

I know from experience that when a pet's owner dies, that pet is butcherable again.  If you can get the cat to the chopping block before it adopts someone else, you can kill it that way.

Danger room. That's your answer to all pet butchering problems.