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Drenake

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Dwarves refuse to work
« on: October 21, 2010, 08:51:07 pm »

Hi !

I've been playing DF2010 for 2 weeks now. My fortress has 65 dwarves and some of them don't seem willing to work.
There are two waterwheels and a screw pump slated for removal and nobody seems to care... I've checked and I have many dwarves with carpentry labors activated. Same for Masonry. There's also a downward stairway I'm trying to build to pickup the body of a miner that died of starvation.

They don't want to work, I don't understand why, and I don't know what to do...

Someone has an idea?... please.
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proxn_punkd

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Re: Dwarves refuse to work
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2010, 09:19:45 pm »

Can they access the places? Do they have any equipment they might need?
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Drenake

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Re: Dwarves refuse to work
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2010, 10:17:38 pm »

Both places are easily accessible, and I don't think they need any special equipment to deconstruct a water wheel and a pump.
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Re: Dwarves refuse to work
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2010, 10:32:48 pm »

Maybe they need the architecture labor to deconstruct them.
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Re: Dwarves refuse to work
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2010, 10:37:20 pm »

Maybe they need the architecture labor to deconstruct them.

Nope. Furniture hauling for most things. Nothing for constructions (Cave-ins due to removed scaffolding is the leading cause of death among dwarven children. It's followed by being swept away and drowning in water... caused by removed scaffolding.)
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Lormax

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Re: Dwarves refuse to work
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2010, 12:32:14 am »

Make sure the material the things are made out of isn't forbidden.  I know over workshops and such you can hit  't' then cursor-over the workshop to see what it's made out of.  My dwarves refused to deconstruct some mason workshops until I un-forbid the material it was made out of.
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Lytha

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Re: Dwarves refuse to work
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2010, 04:31:29 am »

There's also a downward stairway I'm trying to build to pickup the body of a miner that died of starvation.
I am relatively sure that you have a path problem somewhere between this dead miner (and the constructions you're talking about) and the rest of your dwarves. Did you remove any staircases? Did you construct some walls or floors? Check out the tunnels between your dwarves and the rest of this.
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Corew

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Re: Dwarves refuse to work
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2010, 04:46:37 am »

I ve had sometimes problems with dwarves refusing to do something (for example clean vomits from impaled childs). Seems some tasks are very low on the priority list.

What i usually do is create a provisional burrow in the exact zone i need to do some work. Assign a lone dwarf to it, delete all his jobs, except the needed. Sometimes works, others not  :o

Another option, when this does not works: pause, deactivate the work, unpause, pause, activate again the work, then wait a bit.
I just had to construct a wall to block my last entrance to the caverns. Mason was idle, asigned to a burrows centered in the wall. I removed the wall, ordered construction again, and wall was done in seconds, after a lot of time wondering what to do :'(
For my vomit cleaning, it worked when i ordered smooth the floor, then cleaning was instantaneous. I read also about builiding some furniture on the blood to clean it.

In case u forgot.. It is needed a constucted coffin with dwarf burial activated to pick the dead miner
« Last Edit: October 22, 2010, 04:50:06 am by Corew »
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Re: Dwarves refuse to work
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2010, 12:27:25 pm »

Another thing to check is a burrow order. I've used burrows to force movement out of dwarves before, then forgot to remove the burrow order, leaving them stranded in a small "box".

...at least people brought them food and water...
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Drenake

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Re: Dwarves refuse to work
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2010, 12:15:06 pm »

I found the problem...

Both waterwheel and the pump I wanted to deconstruct were forbidden. I have no idea why, but I reclaimed them and it worked.

As for the stair to pick up the dead miner, I assigned a burrow to a mason and the stair was built in a second.

Thanks everyone for your suggestions.
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Re: Dwarves refuse to work
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2010, 04:22:52 pm »

You might have been forbidding certain materials, that happened to be what those two constructions were made of. That's frequently how it happens.
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Re: Dwarves refuse to work
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2010, 05:04:25 pm »

I found the problem...

Both waterwheel and the pump I wanted to deconstruct were forbidden. I have no idea why, but I reclaimed them and it worked.

As for the stair to pick up the dead miner, I assigned a burrow to a mason and the stair was built in a second.

Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

For future reference, mechanics build and destroy windmills and water wheels, as well as make them (although architects move the materials there).
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