Though uh town IC's shouldn't you guys be like evaluating and telling us what to do next time ect?
I'm going to be rude here, for a moment. Please forgive me.
I'm glad to be your IC but uh Flintus10 shouldn't you be like asking that with a more polite turn of phrase or something ect?
[/bitch]This was a pretty bad game, on everyone's part. Yes, everyone's. I'm actually kind of sad. I was not impressed by anyone's gambits, reading skills, deception, insight, or passion. Seriously.
I'm proud of you guys for sticking with it, though, as frustrating of a game as it was. This counts double in the face of so many replacements and lurkers. Sticking with it is the most important part, more important than any of the things I listed above. Endurance is the most valuable quality in a beginner, I believe, and you did a wonderful job at it.
Extra credit to Mindmaker, who sent me PMs and asked me specific questions--I'm still sorry I never got around to that second one, because I was really glad to see you sending them.
I tried to give advice in-game, but it's kind of hard to deal with townies who don't actually listen. I'm a person too, you know...
My advice is very simple: play more games. Your problem right now is lack of experience with tells, and the only real way to learn those is through experience. My other advice is to involve your ego less in the game. If you keep letting yourselves get provoked so easily, you're going to be in real trouble. Fight with logic, not insults. There are times when it's appropriate to be rude, and in the cases where you don't know, it's better to be polite.
Other thing: you need to get better about asking questions and adding pressure. In general, you didn't do these things. You sort of argued amongst yourselves, but when you didn't know, you didn't ask the person you suspected. You didn't say "why did you say this?" or "what do you think of what this other person did?" or "why haven't you done [x, y, and z]?" You didn't apply pressure. Mostly, you squabbled.
You gave into the scum's efforts to lead the town. When you look back, you can see key phrases in KaminaSquirtle's dialogue that indicate that he was attempting to garner favor. He was trying to get a consensus, and you gave it to him.
Don't let lurkers get away so easily, but don't pull a Zathras, either. At the end of the day, it's better to ride a balance between being feared and being loved.
Don't be waffly. If you think someone might be scum, vote him and question him until you're sure of his alignment. This does not mean that you should be close-minded. Don't just pick a target and tunnel forever. That's called Toony Tunneling in this context, and it is very, very bad. You must leave yourself somewhat open to others' opinions, but above all, exercise your judgment.
Oh, and KaminaSquirtle: tone down the attitude. It may have won the game for you right now, but it will hold you back significantly very, very soon. The other thing it will do is give you victories that no one will celebrate with you.
Too bad Vector has been busy.
I had a lot of additional questions to ask.
Ask away. I can be here for a little while longer.
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