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NativeForeigner

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Re: Beginner's Mafia XVII - Day Three: Death of a Salesman
« Reply #480 on: November 10, 2010, 03:50:23 am »

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This has been one of the best BMs I've seen in ages. You guys are interested, motivated, incisive, insightful, alert and agile, all you need is critical mass of players to keep going.

However, thank you for the compliments. From what I hear, not all BMs are like this.

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Also is there a way to know whether or not you have been roleblocked?

I'm pretty sure only the one blocked knows. And the blocker of course.

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There must have been a few minutes in between to remember a commitment you posted to a game that is stalled without your participation.

The game was not at all stalled because of MY lack of participation, I had very little to reply to other than Kamina's post. In those 48 hours after my last post, there was only ONE post even slightly relevant to mine, and not many more that gave me any new material to spew. It's not like I can pull some shit out of my ass to  lay down in the thread, we're in LYLO, we have to be careful. So stop being a douche and calm the fuck down. I'm here to play mafia, not argue with some guy about my delay in posting, shit.
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Yeah, you're a dick, NativeForeigner.
Quit being such a dick, you dick.
Maybe if you weren't such a dick you wouldn't be such a dick.

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Re: Beginner's Mafia XVII - Day Three: Death of a Salesman
« Reply #481 on: November 10, 2010, 06:02:37 am »

Since when it is me who is considered lurking?
I've said what I think already, but there was no substantial response. When I have more to say, I'll do it.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XVII - Day Three: Death of a Salesman
« Reply #482 on: November 10, 2010, 06:28:16 am »

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So to see you ask me help you vote for someone we now know was a townie in order to save your own skin. (And it was definetely possible that you knew Jet would be lynched over you as you yourself said 'Everyone suspected him')
If I'm being accused all over the place and also believe to have found the true scum - I'm not going to just sit and wait.

Or do you want to know why I asked you specifically?
It's because you had already voted for someone other than Jet; the others (except Kamina and Azure) were undecided and it would be good to see who they were going to vote for first.

Also I believe it is more likely to get a response (positive or otherwise) when you ask someone directly and not the public in general. In fact, I wonder why did you ignore it.

And how could I possibly know that Jet would be lynched over me? Even if I was mafia, there would be no way to know that. There weren't even any votes on him by that time.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XVII - Day Three: Death of a Salesman
« Reply #483 on: November 10, 2010, 06:39:10 am »

Flintus, Murphy, and EVERYONE ELSE, this goes for you too: PLAY THE FUCKING GAME YOU SAID YOU'D PLAY!
Why so nervous?
I've almost lost interest in this game already. But I'm going to continue because I signed up, and it doesn't really matter if you scream and swear all over the place or not.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XVII - Day Three: Death of a Salesman
« Reply #484 on: November 10, 2010, 07:05:57 am »

And how could I possibly know that Jet would be lynched over me? Even if I was mafia, there would be no way to know that. There weren't even any votes on him by that time.
You specifically wrote everyone agreed he was mafia before you voted for him, hafta admit that sounds like you were reasonably assured he was gona be lynched.

In fact, I wonder why did you ignore it.
Why would I want to do what you say and not follow my own feelings and arguments? I wasn't totally down with the possibility of you being mafia back then but of those still alive now you were the one that looked most suspect. Particulalry as you really didn't come into the game untill Kamina returned and then you became alot more active.

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Re: Beginner's Mafia XVII - Day Three: Death of a Salesman
« Reply #485 on: November 10, 2010, 07:42:08 am »

I don't really suspect you that much. Nor him.
If I'm being accused all over the place and also believe to have found the true scum - I'm not going to just sit and wait.
Wut.  Contradictions all up in this bitch.
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EVERYONE ELSE, this goes for you too: PLAY THE FUCKING GAME YOU SAID YOU'D PLAY!
If you lurk, it dies, not just for you, but for the other folks as well. Don't be a douche.
JEGUS I play paranormal for ONE DAY, and suddenly I'm a douche?  Calm the fuck down, I planned to post here more today.
Flintus, Murphy, and EVERYONE ELSE, this goes for you too: PLAY THE FUCKING GAME YOU SAID YOU'D PLAY!
Why so nervous?
I've almost lost interest in this game already. But I'm going to continue because I signed up, and it doesn't really matter if you scream and swear all over the place or not.
Don't scumhunt Zathras.
A) He's not in the game.
B) He's a hella lot better player than you.
IN FACT, why do you get so touchy every time an experienced player posts?  The only reason I see is you being afraid of him revealing you to be scum.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XVII - Day Three: Death of a Salesman
« Reply #486 on: November 10, 2010, 08:48:17 am »

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Azure Sepulchre: {0}
Murphy: {0}

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Day 3 will end Thursday, 11/11 at 11 PM EST


Zathras:  I understand your sentiment, but please let the players play.  Please hold your comments until game end.
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HMR stands for Hazardous Materials Requisition, not Horrible Massive Ruination, though I can understand how one could get confused.
God help us if we have to agree on pizza toppings at some point. There will be no survivors.

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Re: Beginner's Mafia XVII - Day Three: Death of a Salesman
« Reply #487 on: November 10, 2010, 10:07:06 am »

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You specifically wrote everyone agreed he was mafia before you voted for him, hafta admit that sounds like you were reasonably assured he was gona be lynched.
Right, I said something like "look, even Kamina and Azure, who are voting for me, still agree on Jet being mafia".
Of course I was sure that he was going to be lynched eventually.
But in no way I could be sure of him being lynched over me on that day, as you seem to imply for some reason.
I would have been much calmer if I knew I was not going to be lynched.

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In fact, I wonder why did you ignore it.
Why would I want to do what you say and not follow my own feelings and arguments?
I did not mean why didn't you do what I said.
I meant why didn't you answer to that. You could say "no, I won't support you" and explain why, but chose to ignore.

I don't really suspect you that much. Nor him.
If I'm being accused all over the place and also believe to have found the true scum - I'm not going to just sit and wait.
Wut.  Contradictions all up in this bitch.
Where?
Yes, I did not suspect you that much. Nor did I suspect Native.
I explained that you two only became top of my list because I dropped Azure and townflipped Jet from it.
I gathered what I think about you in one of the above posts, but I fail to see where was I saying that you are scum.
And yes, during day 2 I was being accused all over the place and also believed to have found the true scum - Jetsquirrel.
Where there are contradictions, huh?

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Don't scumhunt Zathras.
A) He's not in the game.
B) He's a hella lot better player than you.
IN FACT, why do you get so touchy every time an experienced player posts?  The only reason I see is you being afraid of him revealing you to be scum.
Because they are arrogant.
It's not like being an experienced player gives one the right to be a jerk. Especially in a game where he or she is not participating.
And I'm not "scumhunting" him, I'm telling him to either stop being a jerk or get lost. I'm not going to let it go just because everyone is looking for an opportunity to blame me in-game.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XVII - Day Three: Death of a Salesman
« Reply #488 on: November 10, 2010, 10:24:27 am »

I don't really suspect you that much. Nor him.
If I'm being accused all over the place and also believe to have found the true scum - I'm not going to just sit and wait.
Wut.  Contradictions all up in this bitch.
Where?
Yes, I did not suspect you that much. Nor did I suspect Native.
I explained that you two only became top of my list because I dropped Azure and townflipped Jet from it.
I gathered what I think about you in one of the above posts, but I fail to see where was I saying that you are scum.
And yes, during day 2 I was being accused all over the place and also believed to have found the true scum - Jetsquirrel.
Where there are contradictions, huh?
Missed the if.  I read that out of context, as if you were saying you had found the true scum now.  Which contradicts you saying you don't really suspect your top suspects.
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Don't scumhunt Zathras.
A) He's not in the game.
B) He's a hella lot better player than you.
IN FACT, why do you get so touchy every time an experienced player posts?  The only reason I see is you being afraid of him revealing you to be scum.
Because they are arrogant.
It's not like being an experienced player gives one the right to be a jerk. Especially in a game where he or she is not participating.
And I'm not "scumhunting" him, I'm telling him to either stop being a jerk or get lost. I'm not going to let it go just because everyone is looking for an opportunity to blame me in-game.
You'd better not leave beginner's mafia then, since everyone is a 'jerk' in the 'real' ones.  Heaven forbid you ever play in the same game as webadict.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XVII - Day Three: Death of a Salesman
« Reply #489 on: November 11, 2010, 10:51:24 am »

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Day 3 will end Thursday, 11/11 at 11 PM EST, approximately 12 hours from now.

Reminder: A tie will result in a no lynch.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XVII - Day Three: Death of a Salesman
« Reply #490 on: November 11, 2010, 11:24:29 am »

NativeForeigner has been prodded for not posting for over 48 hours.  Flintus and Murphy are next if they do not post soon.

GAAAaahhhhhh!!! AGAIN?!

Dammit, you newbies take notice: If there's a lesson you can learn from this game, it's this: LURKING KILLS GAMES. DON'T FUCKING LURK OR FLAKE!

Goddammit! If you sign up to play a game, it's minimal courtesy to actually play it!

This has been one of the best BMs I've seen in ages. You guys are interested, motivated, incisive, insightful, alert and agile, all you need is critical mass of players to keep going. If NativeWhatever or somesuch is not up to it, someone else will have to fill the spot, but all y'all other guys: DON'T DO THIS: It's the worst label in a mafia group to be labeled as a flaker.


I've been reading this game since before the first day, and you guys have been doing great. Much better than the BMs I played. I know you can pull it off, Don't be discouraged by the gutless worms in your midst that didn't have the spine to stand by the game. Don't despair. You can win this.

"Don't be rude, Nappa." As I pointed out to Webadict earlier in game, being angry about lurking only makes the problem worse.

...in some cases.

(Nice avatar. Blackadder, oh how I love thee.)
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XVII - Day Three: Death of a Salesman
« Reply #491 on: November 11, 2010, 12:05:38 pm »

I see four people and two of them are scum.
I feel so stupid thinking about it over and over again. Four people, amongst whom none look that much scummy.
Those who looked scummy are dead and turned out to be town.
Maybe I should look for towntells instead of scumtells...

There was a good towntell from Kamina. I'm going to believe it:
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I'm certain that while you were dead, you were actually believing me to be scum. But after you rejoined, you might've gotten a scum role and voila - the material you're gathered would be ideal to use as a means to lynch a townie. But you didn't hesitate to post the prepared wall-of-text really fast after rejoining, apparently without giving it a second thought, so I think you got what you expected - a town role.
(sorry if me quoting myself bothers someone)

There was a lot of speculation about Azure on my part, and Native did some too. None of it went further than just speculation, so if Azure is indeed scum, then he is being very, very good at it - no slips and an extremely helpful outlook for the town. Anyone know if he's really that much experienced? For now, unless a good objection is made, I'll consider him town.

Flintus and Native remain.
There's not much against the two of them, but they do fit the "1 semi-active mafia + 1 inactive mafia" scheme. Flintus seems reluctant to argue too much, but posts enough to not look like he's lurking. And while I do not know about Native, his predecessor Ragnarok would quite fit the "inactive mafia" role.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XVII - Day Three: Death of a Salesman
« Reply #492 on: November 11, 2010, 12:13:49 pm »

More extension?
Or should I just vote for who I think is less likely to be town, and hope no one intervenes to bring us to a tie again in the following 12 hours?
It is one hour past midnight in my timezone now. Hope I'll manage to get up in time to check the thread in the morning and take action if no one else bothers.
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« Reply #493 on: November 11, 2010, 01:56:41 pm »

I think we may need another extension, we're not getting anywhere.

We have a lot of speculation going on here, but we need some solid tells in order to make a decision that won't lose the game.
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Quit being such a dick, you dick.
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« Reply #494 on: November 11, 2010, 02:41:16 pm »

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Two extension requests heard.  Day 3 has been extended until Friday, 11/12 at 11 PM EST
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HMR stands for Hazardous Materials Requisition, not Horrible Massive Ruination, though I can understand how one could get confused.
God help us if we have to agree on pizza toppings at some point. There will be no survivors.
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