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« Reply #165840 on: November 13, 2024, 09:49:14 am »

(Ninjaed, on the dB(A) bit, but not removing it.)

dB is strictly a comparative measure, in accoustics being (usually) against a standard pressure level reference. If you're measuring the noise from "a thing" then you should be a metre away from it (and/or state what distance you are measuring it at). Measuring a crowd or other conditions within a surrounding background noise is a distanceless thing, and that probably also applies to "in the production office" or "unlucky nearby residents" in that specific locations obviate the need to state distance under the proviso that whatever limits the venue-proper is (or isn't) sticking to, you expect not to be in levels of loud noise outside of the 'allowably more loud' performance area.

dBA, accoustically, is a particular kind of dB SPL with weighted frequency sensitivity, related to the abilities and tolerances of the typical human ear. I think you're really supposed to specify the "A"-weighted dB as dB(A), so as not to make it look like Amp-comparison[1], and there are other weighting-profiles/reinterpretations given other letters/qualifiers.


I think measuring dB(whatever) in a church might be particularly awkward. It's the sort of space designed (by emperical "what works for church music", co-evolving with "what sorts of sounds work best in a church-liks space") to propogate sound, but there is rarely an actual exhaustive process of identifying the sound-transmission and refining it to not produce anomolously loud places or dead-spots. Especially as there's not much room to fiddle with the original structural concept once you've finally enclosed the whole struture with a roof (you can't nudge a structurally necessary but accoustically inconvenient pillar over by a few feet, even if you'd want to), except by adding in soft coverings and/or some relocatable decorative wooden screens. (Or, yes, these days shuffling the PA system and tweaking the levels. But you'd need enough speakers to cover everywhere without dominating any bits straight in front of them or within an inconveniently reinforcing back-corner.)

Modern accoustically-aware performance spaces tend to aim for biasing towards deadness (padded seat undersides, to react to sound similarly when raised as when some fleshy (and, usually, clothed!) audience member has sat in that position) and then infill. That's more for theatres/concert-halls. Your random 'internally Brutalist' nightclub space, essentially a warehouse with any internalised structures being mainly brick-and-breeze-block and the softest ground-level surface generally being wipe-clean wood, except for what little bit of carpet there may be (VIP section only, and not in front of the VIP bar, but still a big eater of carpet-cleaner and wet-vaccing). Absorbant ceiling tiles are an option (maybe... suspended ceilings are dust-traps[2], at hazard from thrown things and should not be a fire-hazard), or even draped fabrics (similar issues), and it's a truly aspirational proprietor who'd make it much more luxurious than that.  ...at least from my experience, or maybe I've just lucked out and there are places that are more soft-play area than either laserquest or indoor go-karting spaces.


[1] There are all kinds of dB[X]s, for other measures in (and vs. the baseline of) [X]-units. Like dBV, which indicates voltage-differential  comparison (vs 1V, as dBmV would vs 1mV) and dBK which measures 'temperature noise' (against the Kelvin scale degree).

[2] I know this as well as anyone, from my laying of network cables across and through such upper spaces on many occasions. Whether a school classroom or a hotel lounge or an area just off an active kitchen(!), however well looked after the space below is, you poke up into the tiles to guide a cable across it and come down at the very least covered with unidentifiable dust.
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« Reply #165841 on: November 13, 2024, 11:32:15 am »

Oh God, I have Fee Fi Fo Fum above me, stomping around like he doesn't know how to walk like a normal human being, my next door neighbour hallmate who occasionally bonks, and now my next door neighbour not-hallmate who's apparently found someone with a high libido (Alongside their own) to keep bonking.

I am cursed to be surrounded by banging/creaking. And I'm still not getting any myself because I'm still a general mess, just now it's a product of my trans-ness rather than my brain being a complete mess.
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I was pretty damn impressed when they were holding a big festival weekend from Friday to Sunday. The music was being blasted from on top of a hill from some seriously powerful speakers. It reverbed my windows from about 3 miles away. People living in the towers had it even worse because they had no buildings dampening the noise in between. The local council's approved the festival for every year foreveeeeeeeeer

I used to live in a house next to a major highway where the amount of soundproofing engineered in meant nothing would ever wake you and the wall in front of my window meant light from the sun wouldn't either. Worked night-shift at the time and it was the perfect place to truly embrace the vampire life style. Not sure if I was blessed or cursed.
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« Reply #165842 on: November 13, 2024, 01:02:21 pm »

In Toulon (France), a suspect has been arrested for assault, and on suspicion of multiple murders in France. He randomly assaulted a woman in a train, hitting her and kicking her. The woman warned the train operator, the train was stopped in Toulon and police arrested the suspect.
French newspapers report that Levis E. from Cameroon is suspected of various murders in Évry, Strasbourg and Dijon.
Dutch police confirm it is the same person that they have on tape attempting to murder the sleeping homeless person in Rotterdam.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/verdachte-van-moordpoging-op-dakloze-in-rotterdam-opgepakt-in-toulon~bb63288c/

https://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/sdf-tue-a-coups-de-parpaings-a-lyon-un-suspect-recherche-pour-meurtres-arrete-dans-un-train-a-toulon-12-11-2024-TKHGSZAUUFAM7BLO3FTRNFVAEY.php

That's one less deranged serial killer out on the streets.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #165843 on: November 13, 2024, 01:30:25 pm »

the Welsh Mongolian community

All six of them?  :P
Not too far off the mark XD

It was one family and a few Mongolian adults. One really adorable little kid with a gigantic mongolian flag

Though I am now wondering how many folks of recent Mongolian descent live in the UK.
Mongolian estimates a few thousand spread across the whole UK. Not a very visible minority but they are there

I used to live in a house next to a major highway where the amount of soundproofing engineered in meant nothing would ever wake you and the wall in front of my window meant light from the sun wouldn't either. Worked night-shift at the time and it was the perfect place to truly embrace the vampire life style. Not sure if I was blessed or cursed.
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In Toulon (France), a suspect has been arrested for assault, and on suspicion of multiple murders in France. He randomly assaulted a woman in a train, hitting her and kicking her. The woman warned the train operator, the train was stopped in Toulon and police arrested the suspect.
French newspapers report that Levis E. from Cameroon is suspected of various murders in Évry, Strasbourg and Dijon.
Dutch police confirm it is the same person that they have on tape attempting to murder the sleeping homeless person in Rotterdam.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/verdachte-van-moordpoging-op-dakloze-in-rotterdam-opgepakt-in-toulon~bb63288c/

https://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/sdf-tue-a-coups-de-parpaings-a-lyon-un-suspect-recherche-pour-meurtres-arrete-dans-un-train-a-toulon-12-11-2024-TKHGSZAUUFAM7BLO3FTRNFVAEY.php

That's one less deranged serial killer out on the streets.
I'm thoroughly surprised he managed to travel through so many countries whilst being wanted for murder

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #165844 on: November 13, 2024, 02:03:01 pm »

That's ridiculously easy when authorities don't proactively spread the details of cases they're working on to other agencies. Even within a single nation, like the US, our law enforcement agencies don't talk to each other, so criminals that don't stick to the same district get away with multiple crimes spread out over multiple jurisdictions until some random coincidence or witness report or news coverage gets them caught.
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« Reply #165845 on: November 13, 2024, 02:09:06 pm »

Coordinating police work across borders is never easy, people slip through. Travel within the EU is more like travel within a country anyway, but with worse inter-force cooperation. It's not like the guy had to go through passport controls at any point. If he hadn't attacked someone while on a train and relatively contained he probably would have been able to get off at his destination and kill more homeless people while various forces were trying to figure out what region they were even supposed to be looking in.


I'm curious as to the why. Sadistic sociopath, substance abuse, untreated mental illness, random mental break, ideological? Dropping paving slabs on homeless people is a bit of an odd thing to do, and attacking a presumably not homeless woman on a train is a different thing entirely.
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« Reply #165846 on: November 13, 2024, 02:18:53 pm »

I guess it doesn’t matter a whole lot why he did it, but has been caught and can’t do it anymore.

I do hope the police learn lessons about communication though. Informing other forces, either within or without their own country, could make a big difference in a criminal being able to continue their activity.
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« Reply #165847 on: November 13, 2024, 03:07:54 pm »

people have been having this discussion for a century. Dont get your hopes up, they're still morons.
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« Reply #165848 on: November 13, 2024, 03:24:36 pm »

The need of many people to put music ridiculously loud.

If the sound is loud enough to noticeably vibrate objects not physically touching the speaker (including a person's bones), it is too loud at that distance.

It's not the first time, but I've been reminded of it again today when my coworker put the car radio ridiculously high.
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« Reply #165849 on: November 13, 2024, 04:01:27 pm »

Gotta drown out all those pesky thoughts.
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« Reply #165850 on: November 13, 2024, 04:20:15 pm »

I'm thoroughly surprised he managed to travel through so many countries whilst being wanted for murder
I'm not. Schengen open borders. Free travel for everyone and everything, for example like the anti tank rocket launcher that exploded 3 streets away from my house last month.
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« Reply #165851 on: November 13, 2024, 04:45:20 pm »

I guess it doesn’t matter a whole lot why he did it, but has been caught and can’t do it anymore.

I do hope the police learn lessons about communication though. Informing other forces, either within or without their own country, could make a big difference in a criminal being able to continue their activity.

I consider the why quite important, it helps inform where government spending aimed at preventing crime can be directed.

If he was a random sociopath, then efforts to make homeless people and other vulnerable groups in general safer.

If on a mental break or suffering from illness or addiction, then efforts to expand access to mental healthcare and drug addiction clinics.

If motivated by some weird ideology, then efforts to deradicalise and educate such groups.

Stopping crimes committed now is all well and good, but changing circumstances so that crimes don't happen in the future is even better.
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« Reply #165852 on: November 13, 2024, 05:31:54 pm »

I would argue those things should be getting done anyway, but it’s a fair point.
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« Reply #165853 on: November 13, 2024, 05:33:39 pm »

I've been on a sausage kick lately.  Made some sausage and peppers, some bratwurst and cabbage, and now I'm gonna try some seared cabbage and chicken sausage.

Now, the store I shop at has 'high-end' buffalo and duck sausage, any opinions on what kind I should try?  I can cook, Im just very off-the-cuff about it
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« Reply #165854 on: November 13, 2024, 05:46:00 pm »

Buffalo* is quite nice, but so is duck. I personally would lean towards buffalo, I think a lot of the best parts of duck as a meat requires it be an intact piece so it can baste in its own juices and I'm not sure a sausage would capture that. Not sure what either would pair with.

If you get the chance venison, garlic and red wine is a good sausage, and it also makes a banger sausage roll. There's a guy who sells fancy sausage rolls at one of the local farmer's markets and one is red wine and venison with a generous amount of black pepper inside and on top of the pastry and it is just delightful.

*Italian water buffalo to be specific. Haven't eaten any of the other animals named buffalo yet.
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