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Author Topic: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O  (Read 14963913 times)

Mephisto

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #147645 on: October 03, 2019, 10:00:25 am »

Why do people dislike updates?

I update somewhat regularly (and am generally perfectly fine with scheduled updates on macOS or Linux) but I can see why some people don't. Just in the past month, a Windows update borked many people's sound systems. A subsequent update broke wifi. And then the update that fixes the prior sound issues comes around, only to break printers in the process.
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« Reply #147646 on: October 03, 2019, 10:28:30 am »

I think updates are pretty good. You should be patient and wait until it updates. Maybe you shouls upgrade your internet connection?
No, I have good internet - if windows gets confused in the upgrade process, it basically grinds to a halt and you have to restart the update. It's a thing.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #147647 on: October 03, 2019, 10:38:10 am »

Why do people dislike updates?

People tend to not like it when stuff is getting shoved down their throats.

To make matters worse when you operate on a constant update schedule quality/bug control is no longer relevant, since everything is going to get fixed in a few days eventually. The developer doesn't really care about it but you.. you no longer have a working computer.

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« Reply #147648 on: October 03, 2019, 11:08:02 am »

Why do people dislike updates?

People tend to not like it when stuff is getting shoved down their throats.

To make matters worse when you operate on a constant update schedule quality/bug control is no longer relevant, since everything is going to get fixed in a few days eventually. The developer doesn't really care about it but you.. you no longer have a working computer.
I thought the point of updates even if they end up not affecting anything to you, may make it harder for hackers since the code will be different from older versions
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« Reply #147649 on: October 03, 2019, 11:17:42 am »

tech people tend to be paranoid about planned obsolescence, especially coming from windows. Microsoft has a way of making your current OS run slower and slower with each update, coincidentally around the time they release a new version. Plus tech companies in general have a habit of changing huge chunks of their product overnight with little to no care for the user end experience, just that their jobs are justified since they're changing something.

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« Reply #147650 on: October 03, 2019, 11:45:28 am »

That might not be a bad point

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« Last Edit: October 03, 2019, 01:02:31 pm by scriver »
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« Reply #147651 on: October 03, 2019, 12:21:48 pm »

I thought the point of updates even if they end up not affecting anything to you, may make it harder for hackers since the code will be different from older versions

Maybe yes. But in the meantime they made your computer harder to use if not outright unusable because they 've broken something that you needed for whatever reason (work/entertainment). At some point adding extra security just doesn't worth the hassle.

tech people tend to be paranoid about planned obsolescence

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In all seriousness it's just the natural course of events. If you constantly increase the demands in your system  (which is the case with the constant update model) it eventually will reach a point that it will no longer function.

Case in point my old android phone, it came with google chrome pre installed right? Well that (old) version isn't compatible with most sites anymore (text and pictures are all out of place) and the newest version is so demanding that it runs out of ram and just shuts down. As much as I was willing to bother with it, I couldn't find an inbetween version.

This doesn't necessarily mean that there is malice behind the developer's actions but removing the option to control which update you want to install inadvertently removes your ability to maintain otherwise functional machines/systems.
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« Reply #147652 on: October 03, 2019, 12:39:53 pm »

This doesn't necessarily mean that there is malice behind the developer's actions but removing the option to control which update you want to install inadvertently removes your ability to maintain otherwise functional machines/systems.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/22/apple-sued-after-it-admits-to-slowing-down-older-iphones.html
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« Reply #147653 on: October 03, 2019, 12:44:24 pm »

This doesn't necessarily mean that there is malice behind the developer's actions but removing the option to control which update you want to install inadvertently removes your ability to maintain otherwise functional machines/systems.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/22/apple-sued-after-it-admits-to-slowing-down-older-iphones.html
But according to the article they do it to preserve user's battery. I think you're being paranoid about a company that charges premium but clearly has your best interests at heart.
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« Reply #147654 on: October 03, 2019, 01:09:11 pm »

clearly has your best interests at heart.

One big 'ole [citation needed] on this.

I mean, Apple products are fine for certain use cases, I'll grant them. But the pro line isn't. When we start poking and prodding as developers occasionally have to at my current company, the whole house of cards just kind of falls apart. If the best interests of the users were a concern, the whole xcode ecosystem would have to be at least marginally less shit.
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« Reply #147655 on: October 03, 2019, 01:12:00 pm »

clearly has your best interests at heart.

One big 'ole [citation needed] on this.

I mean, Apple products are fine for certain use cases, I'll grant them. But the pro line isn't. When we start poking and prodding as developers occasionally have to at my current company, the whole house of cards just kind of falls apart. If the best interests of the users were a concern, the whole xcode ecosystem would have to be at least marginally less shit.

It's ChairmanPoo. I'm pretty sure it's a joke.
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« Reply #147656 on: October 03, 2019, 01:25:21 pm »

I think you're being paranoid about a helpful individual who clearly has your best interests at heart
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #147657 on: October 03, 2019, 01:43:07 pm »

That makes me want there to be a move/videogame/tv-show scene with a crowd of people saying at the same time "We have your best interest at heart." in a slow monotone.
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« Reply #147658 on: October 03, 2019, 01:44:20 pm »

clearly has your best interests at heart.
One big 'ole [citation needed] on this.

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« Reply #147659 on: October 03, 2019, 01:52:54 pm »

Hey now. I get a chance to bitch about work in a roundabout way in the WTF thread, I'm taking it.
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