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[TamerVirus]

There's a bunch of surreal kid-targeted CG videos featuring unliscenced popular characters, often actng completely inappropriately (for the character). It has either been alleged or proven that these are AI-designed.

I guess that Elsagate stuff is still ongoing.
Typical YouTube not doing anything about it

[methylatedspirit]

There's a bunch of surreal kid-targeted CG videos featuring unliscenced popular characters, often actng completely inappropriately (for the character). It has either been alleged or proven that these are AI-designed.

I guess that Elsagate stuff is still ongoing.
Typical YouTube not doing anything about it

To be fair, trying to ban these Elsagate-related channels is sort of like playing exponential whack-a-mole; ban one, and two take their place. Plus, the only way to make YouTube care is to threaten their bottom line, I think.

[Dunamisdeos]

There's a bunch of surreal kid-targeted CG videos featuring unliscenced popular characters, often actng completely inappropriately (for the character). It has either been alleged or proven that these are AI-designed.

I guess that Elsagate stuff is still ongoing.
Typical YouTube not doing anything about it

To be fair, trying to ban these Elsagate-related channels is sort of like playing exponential whack-a-mole; ban one, and two take their place. Plus, the only way to make YouTube care is to threaten their bottom line, I think.

Is that the stuff with the random AI-generated kid content with all kinds of disturbing violent stuff?

If so YouTube did do a bunch of purges of it, though the problem does persist.

[Sirus]

I have never heard of this. Something tells me that's a good thing.

[LordBaal]

I did have to watch out for some baby shark or others such videos laced with some jump scares or creppy stuff in the middle of the videos. What sick fuck would do that kind of shit? I mean there's no monetary gain nor even a claim of fame out of it. It's done merelly for fucks sake and sadism.

[pisskop]

If one wanted an honest sample of it, where would one go?  I dont want to chance the most popular ones or the ones youtube itself recommends.


Like is it Ren and Stimpy bad or Rocko's modern life bad, or just really weird like sesame street parody bad?

[LordBaal]

It's more like momo telling children to cut themselves up or some sick shit like that.

[hector13]

Yeah, disturbing stuff rather than adults inserting references that go over kid’s heads.

[pisskop]

yea.  I think i saw the one he mentioned.  something about youll die and your parents will meet me unless you cut your legs.

thats just . . . disturbing in its own way.

[scourge728]

I did have to watch out for some baby shark or others such videos laced with some jump scares or creppy stuff in the middle of the videos. What sick fuck would do that kind of shit? I mean there's no monetary gain nor even a claim of fame out of it. It's done merelly for fucks sake and sadism.

Actually, supposedly there is, in fact, monetary gain out of it, since somehow these videos managed to be monetized and tend to get many views

[Rolan7]

Retsupurae, well Slowbeef & TieTuesday watched a few I think.  I'm gonna say NSFW - there's at least violence with uncanny, creepy blood.  And uh, a toddler getting hurt.  I didn't rewatch this one all the way yet but I'm pretty sure there are some sexually suggestive themes in this one or another one they watched.

Posting it anyway because it's pretty disturbing if these are getting targeted at children?  I don't know anything for sure, except that I'm concerned.

[Reelya]

If one wanted an honest sample of it, where would one go?  I dont want to chance the most popular ones or the ones youtube itself recommends.


Like is it Ren and Stimpy bad or Rocko's modern life bad, or just really weird like sesame street parody bad?

"Elsagate" videos are their own category of bad. The concept is that you exploit the fact that the Youtube Kids app doesn't give you any choice of the "next video", it's entirely auto-play, which is meant to "safely" to keep kids out of the nastier Youtube content. So the "audience" is actually the algorithm and the quality of the content doesn't even matter. "Youtube Kids" is what parents plop their toddler in front of so that stuff is flashing on the screen. Since the algorithm is the actual audience their trying to please, the content tends to be very repetitive and samey.

There are a few "formulas" found to work to game the algorithm, and "elsagate" type videos are one of the most well-known ones, however there are others. type "elsa and" into google and the auto-complete is "elsa and spiderman". That's a good way to sample this content, precisely because this is content that games the recommendation system itself. Picked at random:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D_e2fbMcpc
Try and bear with it for a minute or two, then note this has 32 million views, and the first official Captain Marvel trailer only managed 58 million view. And note that this ElsaGate video had age-restrictions put on it as part of the general crackdown on this material, or it would probably be at 100 million views by now. Then note that this elsagate video only has 4800+ comments compared to 158000+ on the Captain Marvel trailer. That is because most of the views come from the kid's app, not the normal youtube. From the total views you can see why this sort of cheap content was so lucrative.

this video is a good example of how Elsagate works. Royalty free music over a video of some people wearing cheap cosplays of the same set of Marvel / DC / Disney characters and fooling around. And the title is the incomprehensible "Spiderman & Frozen Elsa TROLLEY CRASH! w/ Maleficent Joker Disney Princess Anna Toys! Superhero IRL" which is loaded with keywords to grab views from the next-video-for-kids algorithm. Note, that even though these videos are made by very diverse groups they almost always feature identical casts, because the casts are determined by (1) what cheap cosplays are available and (2) by the algorithm, which is a self-reinforcing selection mechanism: the more elsa-gate videos feature the same cast, the more those search-terms get selected for.

There was even one of those inane "pranks" channels where the edgelord creators go and race-bait black guys with the n-word then whine "it's a prank!" when the black guys try and beat them up. Then, one day they turned into an Elsagate channel, without even bothering to rebrand or anything. Subscribers tuned in one day expecting edgy asshole pranks, and were treated to something like the above video, and were like "yo wtf".

Some of the elsagate videos are "sexier" than others, e.g. some have better looking girls in sexier cosplay, innuendo etc, but nothing worse than you'd see on free to air TV anyway if you were a kid growing up. If you were a kid at home and there was nothing on and you flicked to Days of Our Lives, you'd get more lewd content than the lewdest Elsagate video. Hell, re-runs of I Dream of Jeannie are a hell of a lot more lewd than these videos, and they used to play that at about 4pm in the afternoon when I was in school.

 Also, the issue is that they can ban specific iterations of it, but the basic concept is the same: there are various 'formulas' for gaming the autoplay system, which leads to everyone being channeled in junk content on Youtube Kids. Sure, the few "disturbing" videos that happen to appear in their from time to time are worrying, but the core problem that your kid is watching hours of absolute mindless trash is actually a bigger problem than the fact that in e.g. one video you can see elsa's cleavage. Kids often don't even pick up that stuff: innuendo goes right over their heads. It's the parents who get offended, not the kids who get disturbed by it.

[Mephisto]

Enjoy.

[LordBaal]

Ffs why in the name of the emprah a light bulb needs a machine spirit?

We are the real Mechanicum indeed.

[Mephisto]

That is totally how the machine priests would talk to certain machine spirits, now that I think of it. Basically turn it on and off at random intervals until it starts working.