Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[TD1]

I'd hate to be the fella to tell someone that they have to plant a flag in Yoink.

[Doomblade187]

I'd hate to be the fella to tell someone that they have to plant a flag in Yoink.

"Hey, do you have any oil? Because you look good to plant a flag in."

*Sneaks away in shame.*

[wierd]

While Yoink seems to have a number of self-esteem related issues (and I wish him the best with them, honest.), acne does not seem to be one of them. 

He shouldn't have to worry about oil prices making his face suddenly profitable to exploit as a resource.

[Reelya]

Oh no, is this stuff never going to end? They've announced a new Ghostbusters for 2020, but it ignores the 2016 version and is a sequel to GB1 and GB2 to be directed by Jason Reitman (son of Ivan Reitman). Now, however, the same media that said you were a Nazi if you didn't like the 2016 one are starting to say you're a Nazi if you're happy about the 2020 version. There's probably going to be a huge stink about it and a lot of media trying to get people to boycott it in 2020.

https://www.themarysue.com/maybe-its-time-to-let-the-ghostbusters-die/

if the rumor is true and the movie will follow two boys and two girls, it’s the happy medium of the two different Ghostbusters crews.

... Which is great news, and was always the plan for Ghostbusters III even going back a decade or two.

every man who ever watched the movie as a kid is going to crawl out of his mom’s basement and cry because girls can’t fight ghosts, even if they have boys helping them.

At least she's making a prediction here, and predictions are a good tests of the validity of our worldviews.

[Kagus]

Wasn't that already brought up before? Leslie Jones tweeted about it in a generally Leslie Jones way a while back.

And as I don't follow her Twitter account, I can only assume that it was brought up somewhere else.

[Reelya]

What's new is some press releases and a flood of articles by the sjw end of the media talking about how bad it is that we're getting another Ghostbusters movie, despite them saying we absolutely had to love the last one, or else.

EDIT: At least we have some interesting predictions. The 2020 one is supposed to be a 50:50 boy/girl version, and Mary Sue writers among others think the same people who hated on the 2016 one will come out again to hate on the 2020 one because there are some girls in it. This fits their worldview that all backlash is because boys hate girls, and don't want any girl germs in their story.

This is clearly delusional. The most likely prediction is that Ghostbusters III will be a huge box-office success, and the more outlets like The Mary Sue or others campaign against it, the more attention it will get, and the bigger a success it will be. Additionally, the same haters of 2016 Ghostbusters will almost certainly give any female cast members of 2020 a "free pass" rather than double-down on a non-existent "we don't want girlbusters" argument.

[ChairmanPoo]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that GB2016 failed because it was shit, and I see little to suggest GB2020 wont be shit

[Reelya]

GB 2020 will probably succeed precisely because 2016 was so shit, and different people are making it now - the Sony executives connected with it are all already out of the company for various reasons (some resigned over the Sony hack incident, others left for different reasons). That department at Sony got a new executive producer and he just handed the entire project back to the original 1980s director Ivan Reitman, who taking over as producer, and his son is directing it. So, different everybody involved compared to just a few years ago.

That, but the effect will be massively amplified like I said due to the same outlets doing a 180^o backflip on the two movies, which will piss everyone off:

https://au.ign.com/articles/2019/01/21/ghostbusters-leslie-jones-says-new-reboot-like-something-trump-would-do

Ghostbusters: Leslie Jones Says New Sequel 'Like Something Trump Would Do'

In a tweet sent out multiple times on different threads, Jones expressed her feelings on the news of the 2020 sequel, saying the fact that it's a follow-up to the original '80s films makes it seem likethe 2016 film doesn't count.

Well, try not losing $100 million dollars for your studio and just then they might decide that your film matters and wasn't a horrible mistake that almost destroyed a multi-million dollar franchise.

Also, it seems a bit rich that she's saying it's a dick move not to include the 2016 movie in the main-movie continuity, when in fact one of the main criticisms of GB2016 was that it completely ignored the main-movie continuity. Yeah, you can't really have that cake and eat it, hon.

[wierd]

Here's a radical thought.

A good movie does not need to be some "STATEMENT!" about political hoodie doo.  Especially not one about cleaning up ghosts in New York.  It really should not matter if there are vaginas or penises involved.  When you ***MAKE*** it about that, instead of making it be about cleaning up ghosts in New York, guess what happens?  People dont want to watch it, because it is like a low budget porn plot; It exists exclusively to be a vehicle for something else, and lacks audience engagement, and fails to establish suspension of disbelief.  AKA-- YOU MAKE IT SHIT.

I am not a misogynist:  I really do think a woman ghost buster could well be a thing.  However, making a role female just because "I WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT!!" is bullshit, and always has been.  It makes about as much sense as making a chick flick about being pregnant have a male lead reprising the role of the pregnant person, "BECAUSE INCLUSION!".  Unless there is some narrative reason for that as part of the plot, the situation just does not make a whole lot of sense, and makes the audience unable to suspend their disbelief, and thus makes for a shit movie.

DON'T MAKE CASTING DECISIONS JUST TO SATISFY A DESIRE TO MAKE A STATEMENT. 

It's just that simple.

[Jopax]

Thing is, I don't think they had a political statement in mind when making it. The end product has little to nothing to do with it. The whole "if you hate it you're a mysogynist" angle was something that seems to have developed later, possibly when they realised their movie was an utter pile of doubleshit (that is, the shit you shit out after eating only shit) and needed some way to get people to see it. And what better way to get folks to see a movie than stirring up shit so you get tribes forming and people going to see it purely to support their tribe of choice. The folks who hated it won't be going to see it anyways so you don't really lose out much, you do gain some rabid defenders who will convince themselves that it's the bestest thing ever simply because there's apparent mysogynists hating the movie so it must be a masterpiece that their hateful little minds can't comprehend.

This kind of market manipulation is painfully obvious if you just step back and look at the whole thing, the saddest part is that most folks will be halfway trough their angry tweets and too busy to do that.

The fact that they're walking it all back now for a new movie should be even more obvious proof of that, but it seems folks are once again digging their trenches and readying for another war over the whole shitshow.

[Kagus]

It makes about as much sense as making a chick flick about being pregnant have a male lead reprising the role of the pregnant person, "BECAUSE INCLUSION!".

Fie upon you and your small-minded dumbery!

[LordBaal]

GB2016 failed not because girls were in it, but because it wasn't a really good movie and most people, both creators/supporters and critics gave far more importance and focus on the all girls cast than to making a good movie.

[wierd]

It makes about as much sense as making a chick flick about being pregnant have a male lead reprising the role of the pregnant person, "BECAUSE INCLUSION!".

Fie upon you and your small-minded dumbery!

4.6 stars out of 10. ON IMDB.

Rotten tomatoes gives it a very rotten rating.

I think I made my point.   EG, that such a movie would be total shit.  And look--- IT WAS!

GB2016 failed not because girls were in it, but because it wasn't a really good movie and most people, both creators/supporters and critics gave far more importance and focus on the all girls cast than to making a good movie.

BINGO.  The movie was a vehicle for a statement, instead of a statement being slipped into a well considered narrative.  The audience noticed.

[Kagus]

I think I made my point.   EG, that such a movie would be total shit.  And look--- IT WAS!

Only because of the rabid mischwarzenists review-bombing it!

[Yoink]

I like to think that Yoink is secretly American.

I like to think that sometimes, too!   

While Yoink seems to have a number of self-esteem related issues (and I wish him the best with them, honest.), acne does not seem to be one of them. 

Truly my greatest achievement thus far: never having had a zit.

...Huh, perhaps this is why the S.A.D (Standard American Diet) is so full of greasy foods - so that the US government can someday harvest the putrid pores of their pimply populace for their precious oil content!