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Author Topic: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O  (Read 14555219 times)

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« Reply #140820 on: December 05, 2018, 03:17:59 pm »

Bush I's main thing was invading a bunch of questionable cold-war era allies who had become more of a liability than an asset after the Berlin Wall went down.

It's quite amusing how much of a 180o flip they did on the Noriega spin. During the Reagan years they couldn't praise the guy highly enough, and actively suppressed DoJ investigations into his drug dealing. Reagan publicly noted Panama as a model democracy, despite most of the world agreeing that the 1985 elections were a crooked sham. He was a murdering crook, but he was our crook.

However, Bush needed to flex some military muscles to show he was the new boss, and Noriega's number was up, so the Republicans 'suddenly' noticed what a crook he was. Similar to Saddam. USA was perfectly happy he was invading places as long as the cold war needed to be fought. Then, we get suddenly outraged that he invades another place, and say that invasions are just never OK. Seeing that the Republicans actively supported him while invading places previously, he was seemingly lulled into the belief (by the US ambassador) that the next invasion would be treated similarly. Not so.
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« Reply #140821 on: December 05, 2018, 03:27:00 pm »

I thought Bush 1's thing was puking on a foreign dignitary and saying "read my lips: no new taxes!" despite not having lips.

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« Reply #140822 on: December 05, 2018, 03:29:46 pm »

Also first gulf war, and pals.
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« Reply #140823 on: December 05, 2018, 09:28:35 pm »

I can't say I had high expectations, but The Last Tiger campaign for Battlefield V felt actually worse than I expected, when I expected bad. It's surprising.
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« Reply #140824 on: December 05, 2018, 09:47:11 pm »

From what I've seen of it, it is less werhaboo than I expected. Not that that's a particularly impressive feat, of course.
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« Reply #140825 on: December 05, 2018, 09:54:34 pm »

I thought it would be kind of "Oh shit, the war crimes may have actually been a bad thing" (Which I didn't expect would be handled at all well, mind.) but instead they just dodge the war crimes, except for deserters being executed, which is shown quite a bit, granted. And then one of the very first things in the opening was "The Tiger would often run out of ammo before the enemies ran out of tanks." Which is absurd. It wasn't the most Wehraboo thing, but it was totally a Tigerwank. Not saying I didn't get laughs out of it, though.
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« Reply #140826 on: December 05, 2018, 10:52:07 pm »

Was having some nice, long-winded dream involving road trips and making wonderful friendships and... then I woke up, having slept for over 12 hours and missed my appointment (which wasn't even particularly early, I wasn't even worried about being late or missing it), subsequently having my payment suspended and probably deducted from or something.

And get this: my phone, with multiple alarms set on it, was right next to my head.
How the hell did I not wake up? Sure, it's not my previous phone and is generally pretty shoddy, but at least its alarms are nice and jarring and loud. Unless I forgot to set them... but I have a pretty vivid memory of setting alarms. It's impossible to tell with this bloody phone because it doesn't show a notification or whatever about alarms timing out.     
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« Reply #140827 on: December 05, 2018, 11:04:52 pm »

If you casually slept for 12 hours, severe sleep deprivation might have something to do with it.
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« Reply #140828 on: December 05, 2018, 11:38:18 pm »

I thought it would be kind of "Oh shit, the war crimes may have actually been a bad thing" (Which I didn't expect would be handled at all well, mind.) but instead they just dodge the war crimes, except for deserters being executed, which is shown quite a bit, granted. And then one of the very first things in the opening was "The Tiger would often run out of ammo before the enemies ran out of tanks." Which is absurd. It wasn't the most Wehraboo thing, but it was totally a Tigerwank. Not saying I didn't get laughs out of it, though.

Which war crimes are we talking about? Anything specific to the scenario, or just Germans = War Crimes? Hint: not all Germans, and not even the vast bulk of Germans who were conscripted were involved in any war crimes.

This is the Western front, right? And a regular Wehrmacht unit and not the Waffen-SS, right? Running the numbers, about 2/3rds of the entire adult male population of Germany fought in the Wehrmacht during WWII. Not all of them were slavering monsters, they were just conscripts doing their bit because their country was at war, the same as normal people from any other country.

On that note, i found this hilariously inept post on Reddit about the issue:

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Because the Main of the Wachermatt were just average soldiers. The SS higherups mainly did the terrible warcrimes and atrocities. The Average german soldier was just a socialist-nationalist, who saw a strong leader leading his people out of a forced debt that they were saddled with unfairly after WW2.

Yeah, but no. First the mispelling of Wehrmacht, second the idea that the average German soldier was a national socialist, and third the "after WW2" bit. Most soldiers were conscripts, and the Nazis only got 44% of seats in the elections.

Unless you're following a Waffen-SS unit around or something as the plot, which could be a different story.
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« Reply #140829 on: December 05, 2018, 11:42:28 pm »

Nah blood stains are easy to get out of clothes.
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« Reply #140830 on: December 05, 2018, 11:48:34 pm »

I thought it would be kind of "Oh shit, the war crimes may have actually been a bad thing" (Which I didn't expect would be handled at all well, mind.) but instead they just dodge the war crimes, except for deserters being executed, which is shown quite a bit, granted. And then one of the very first things in the opening was "The Tiger would often run out of ammo before the enemies ran out of tanks." Which is absurd. It wasn't the most Wehraboo thing, but it was totally a Tigerwank. Not saying I didn't get laughs out of it, though.

Which war crimes are we talking about? Anything specific to the scenario, or just Germans = War Crimes? Hint: not all Germans, and not even the vast bulk of Germans who were conscripted were involved in any war crimes.

 This is the Western front, right? And a regular Wehrmacht unit and not the Waffen-SS, right? Running the numbers, about 2/3rds of the entire adult male population of Germany fought in the Wehrmacht during WWII. Not all of them were slavering monsters, they were just conscripts doing their bit because their country was at war, the same as normal people from any other country.

The Wehrmact wasn't exactly clean on either front. Like all things Nazi, they were much worse on the Eastern Front than the Western, but there were still hundreds of POWs and civilians murdered by all-Wehrmacht forces.  In the East, of course, the Wehrmacht massacred Poles and Jews just as happily as the SS did.
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« Reply #140831 on: December 06, 2018, 12:00:34 am »

They should make a game about that Korean guy who was conscripted to fight in three different armies. He was very skilled in the art of surrender.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Kyoungjong

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« Reply #140832 on: December 06, 2018, 02:26:57 am »

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« Reply #140833 on: December 06, 2018, 04:53:30 am »

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-46453544

So the author of this article doesn't seem to be aware that The Satanic Temple is not "Temple of Satan". Nor is it "a" satanic temple. Naughty child, Satan's not gonna be bringing you any margaritas this Beltane!

I was a bit worried about the mention of them leveling copyright claims against Sabrina, but judging from the article on that story they seem to have handled things somewhat amicably... Still though, I like these nutcases, and I wouldn't want to lose that appreciation over something silly like money.

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« Reply #140834 on: December 06, 2018, 04:56:30 am »

You expect us to click links from the BBC to see what the article's about??
I for one would rather not have any BBCs rammed through my laptop's near-nonexistent firewalls.
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