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Author Topic: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O  (Read 14910561 times)

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #139275 on: October 23, 2018, 08:28:47 am »

Considering that there are quite a few causes of dementia (Tau tangles, Amyloid plaques, acute brain injuries, brain lesions from strokes, meningeal infections, etc...) there is no single "Cure" for dementia.

Fixing all of them, and doing it magically just in time, is a bit unreasonable.  Should research continue? OH HELL YES IT SHOULD.  Should people be forced, against their wills, to endure being aware that they are losing their fucking minds, and kept alive because their family members dont want grandma to die?  NO. NOT IF GRANDMA SIGNED A DNR.
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« Reply #139276 on: October 23, 2018, 08:58:46 am »

Are we SURE that we want those people that rule our society, currently only temporarily, to transform into our immortal god emperors, grasping the entire world in their ageless clutches for eternity?
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« Reply #139277 on: October 23, 2018, 09:30:35 am »

Maybe they'll start giving a crap about climate change
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« Reply #139278 on: October 23, 2018, 09:47:02 am »

Sure, we'll just bump up the murder rate to compensate.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #139279 on: October 23, 2018, 09:58:39 am »

Sure, we'll just bump up the murder rate to compensate.
This. If people don't like their leaders and they can live for millennia, someone will just assassinate them (or they will die in an accident).
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« Reply #139280 on: October 23, 2018, 10:12:58 am »

I feel that the eventual accumulation of pollutants, radiation damage and dietary habits will result in a max age of 500, tops.
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« Reply #139281 on: October 23, 2018, 10:22:00 am »

Sure, we'll just bump up the murder rate to compensate.

"Now that immortality has been achieved, we've decided to repeal the laws on murder, manslaughter, assault with a deadly weapon, and so on and so forth. We gotta balance it out somehow! So from now on, you can live forever, but watch your backs!"
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #139282 on: October 23, 2018, 10:29:23 am »

Sure, we'll just bump up the murder rate to compensate.

"Now that immortality has been achieved, we've decided to repeal the laws on murder, manslaughter, assault with a deadly weapon, and so on and so forth. We gotta balance it out somehow! So from now on, you can live forever, but watch your backs!"
With violent death spiralling out of control, the One World Order decides to implement a rule that violent deaths are only not crimes if they happen as a result of a consensul, public, honourable duel.

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #139283 on: October 23, 2018, 10:54:46 am »

I should have clarified - my WTF isn't against public health or education programs (because they are demonstrably effective).

It's against calling them 'free.'
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #139284 on: October 23, 2018, 11:57:11 am »




*I say possibly, because in the US costs are high because no individual cares about anything more than premiums and out-of-pocket, not actual cost.  But in the UK, for instance, total spending is much smaller per-GDP for not terrible results.


In the UK and everywhere else. In general socialized medical systems achieve better outcomes for the buck than private ones... and in fact even within the single payer bunch, more socialized systems are more efficient thsn private run ones. This was in one of my textbooks in uni, alongside refs to the studies, alas I dont have that onnhand anymore.


By the way, I wouldn't regard the NHS as being the best nowadays, at the very least in my field. Years of funding cuts have made penny pinching part of the official policy, NICE guidelines are lagging behind the rest of the continent, and the outcomes are likewise lagging behind.

I think stress on the system as a result of an increasingly elderly population (who use up far more than their share of NHS resources) is the primary factor in our lagging behind.  Sadly, if this socialist dream is to continue, and however unpleasant it might seem, we need to get some Malthusian/Logan's Run shit all up in this.
I pinkyswear that THAT is not the main issue. In general NHS cancer protocols lag behind.  Even the HSE, which is itself a copy of the NHS with more copayment from patients, has better hi-tec drug avaiability. And that's despite the fact that half the time their protocols are NHS ones with the anagrams filed off.

I can tell you for instance that until late last year revlimid was only given to late stage multiple myeloma (and I'm not sure how widespread it's use upfront is today), whereas back home we were already frequently using it frontline at the beginning of the decade.
It's hardly an isolated example. I could name two or three more specific examples of the NICE guidelines being restrictive on expensive diagnostic and therapeutic procedures without thinking too hard. And it's not just me. KCL published a study on the subject


I'm pointing this out because the NHS was one of the first socialized healthcare systems in the world (possibly the first complete one) and yet slowly over the last 10 years the British people are being corraled into accepting either less services or a privatization, or more likely both. In a way some of these measures have already been implemented ("*insert name of Trust* Private? Wtf?). But I get the feeling that someone somewhere is preparing lube to try something more radical in the near future
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« Reply #139285 on: October 23, 2018, 12:17:12 pm »

Motion for a vote to rename thread to "Buncha' geopolitical nerds thread" o/
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« Reply #139286 on: October 23, 2018, 01:41:39 pm »

Are we SURE that we want those people that rule our society, currently only temporarily, to transform into our immortal god emperors, grasping the entire world in their ageless clutches for eternity?

Sure, why not? If pop media has taught me anything, it's that the god-emperors' deaths will be so satisfying at the hands of the plucky farmhand.
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« Reply #139287 on: October 23, 2018, 03:17:58 pm »

Are we SURE that we want those people that rule our society, currently only temporarily, to transform into our immortal god emperors, grasping the entire world in their ageless clutches for eternity?

Sure, why not? If pop media has taught me anything, it's that the god-emperors' deaths will be so satisfying at the hands of the plucky farmhand.
Bonus, most of the American military is rural born.
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« Reply #139288 on: October 23, 2018, 05:31:52 pm »

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« Reply #139289 on: October 23, 2018, 06:45:18 pm »

That's the product I want the least. The very least.
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