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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #137130 on: August 25, 2018, 07:21:44 am »

As an american, the t in that can't is is NOT clearly audible. Some americans, a minority really, really do pronounce t differently. Here's some examples, though I pronounce the t in all the 4.1 examples.
I take back the statement on hearing care :P
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« Reply #137131 on: August 25, 2018, 07:30:23 am »

As an american, the t in that can't is is NOT clearly audible. Some americans, a minority really, really do pronounce t differently. Here's some examples, though I pronounce the t in all the 4.1 examples.
I take back the statement on hearing care :P
The irony of you making that joke is that the price-fixed hearing aid "industry" is complete WTFery.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #137132 on: August 25, 2018, 07:48:21 am »

it's a glottal stop as opposed to a t like in "to"

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-05-08

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« Reply #137133 on: August 25, 2018, 07:57:11 am »

it's a glottal stop as opposed to a t like in "to"

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-05-08
He says in the first panel that a glottal stop "is made by halting airflow with your glottis" ... and then ... that's true of none of the examples. At least, not for me.
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« Reply #137134 on: August 25, 2018, 08:10:13 am »

Uh, yeah, the t is clearly audible. Similarly even in hicksvilles stateside even the drunks pronounce the t in batman.

... maybe time for a hearing check, ree?

no, it's a thing see. If it's just me why's it turn out there's an entire SMBC comic about it.

What you're probably not aware of is how much clearer non-Americans pronounce the T's in the middle of words. ... Unless they're Cockney mutants.
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« Reply #137135 on: August 25, 2018, 08:10:22 am »

The irony of you making that joke is that the price-fixed hearing aid "industry" is complete WTFery.
That would be part of the joke, yes.

E: it's okay, ree. It's not just you, you poor blighters. Apparently hearing has more color blind equivalents than I was aware of.
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« Reply #137136 on: August 25, 2018, 08:13:59 am »

No, it's that you're so used to it you just compensate by assuming letters are there which are not, the same way Cockney's say "boh-llll" but hear bottle.

Check this video out, it also happens in words like button.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vabg-EUHOQk

Americans just say "Buh-nnnn" there's no T left. Any consonant you're hearing instead is in fact a "h".

Here's an English person for comparison:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjGQQTkhTH0

buh-ton
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« Reply #137137 on: August 25, 2018, 08:20:55 am »

What you English speakers should really be worried about is your Rs.
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« Reply #137139 on: August 25, 2018, 08:56:29 am »

What you English speakers should really be worried about is your Rs.

I associate European trilling R's with guys in Bavarian hats, with twirly moustaches and lederhosen. No thanks.

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« Reply #137140 on: August 25, 2018, 09:40:04 am »

What you English speakers should really be worried about is your Rs.

I associate European trilling R's with guys in Bavarian hats, with twirly moustaches and lederhosen. No thanks.
Didn't Hitler also trill Rs?
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« Reply #137141 on: August 25, 2018, 09:56:17 am »

My accent used to be half cockney and half well-enunciated Scottish English (read: people can understand it) before it mutated into some working class Scot (read: unintelligible to anyone) that absorbed too many American phrases-speech. Somehow cockney has some similarities with certain other Scottish accents so I spent a lot of the time being suspected of being from other places. Like Poland.

Yeah, I don't get it either. But, I recently regained the ability to say 'th' instead of 'f'.
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« Reply #137142 on: August 25, 2018, 09:57:36 am »

Germans usually use tongue root Rs, I believe. As opposed to the tongue tip Rs that say Spanish and (the majority of) Swedish uses.

English uses what I like to describe as the dead fish tongue R. In which your tongue just lies there limply like a dead fish, maybe turning aboulicly upwards a little.
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« Reply #137143 on: August 25, 2018, 10:04:50 am »

Didn't Hitler also trill Rs?
Yup, it's one of the things that Nazis ruined for everyone forever, among the swastika and the name Adolf.
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« Reply #137144 on: August 25, 2018, 10:07:37 am »

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