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[Hanslanda]

Whereas in a home defense situation, you want assured death with lower chance of overpenetration and resultant collateral damage. The humane thing is like this, would you rather die fast of shock and blood loss or slow of shock and blood loss?

[Kagus]

Whereas in a home defense situation, you want assured death with lower chance of overpenetration and resultant collateral damage. The humane thing is like this, would you rather die fast of shock and blood loss or slow of shock and blood loss?

Neither! Call me old-fashioned, but I'll accept nothing less than gangrene and dysentery to go with my French pox!

[Teneb]

Everyone knows the humane thing is to whip out your portable guillotine and behead them. Humanely.

[Dunamisdeos]

I am a fan of jumping from the bannister with a butterknife and then slowly laying them to rest while I say cryptic bullshit in Italian.

[Hanslanda]

It's all genuinely theoretical and I hope it stays that way. I don't want to ever use my gun on a person cuz that'd be a tragedy. I also plan on making sure my family is safe and this my best option.

[scourge728]

The correct way to end someone is to unscrew your pommel so you can end them rightly

[Doomblade187]

I am a fan of jumping from the bannister with a butterknife and then slowly laying them to rest while I say cryptic bullshit in Italian.

But is it a wooden butter knife?

It's all genuinely theoretical and I hope it stays that way. I don't want to ever use my gun on a person cuz that'd be a tragedy. I also plan on making sure my family is safe and this my best option.

I agree with not ever wanting to have to shoot someone, and I know you spend time at the range (at least a bit), but my main concern with civilian gun ownership is safety- kids and such getting ahold of guns when they're too young to understand, while balancing defense with that is really hard.

[Hanslanda]

I have gun locks for both our guns. I also plan on teaching him about guns as soon as he can start conversing with me. He can talk now but he can't quite converse.

My niece is 10 btw and she's a deadeye little sniper.

[Parsely]

I googled extended magazines for my two guns. Why does a pocket pistol need a 32 round magazine?! I want a 10 round mag for mine, and some Critical Defense rounds. Oughta be far more than sufficient.

Because they're not using it for self-defense. Some people shoot for fun, high magazine capacity can be fun, and pistols and pistol ammo is cheap. Plus the aforementioned reason that there's no reason why the weapon needs to be incompatible with existing high capacity magazines.

On the other hand, Youtube is surprisingly useful when I need it. My sister asked about what exactly a mortar is (we were watching a miniseries together and one o fthe main characters is a mortar man), and a 30 seconds later she is listening to some heavy german accent explain the history of mortars, how they operate, and for what they are used.

I bet you're watching The Pacific and that she was listening to this video by Military History Visualized.

Leaving a round chambered is an insane safety hazard, just saying.

If you keep your finger off the trigger it's perfectly safe, and if you're not proficient enough in your weapon to accomplish that you shouldn't be carrying it for self-defense.

[Doomblade187]

Parsley, accidental discharge can occur regardless of trigger discipline. While Glocks are known to be pretty good about NOT firing when they're dropped, a lot of older guns and even some modern guns still have issues. As such, chambering a round would still result in danger.

That said, I agree wholeheartedly with the statement on rigger discipline.

[Draignean]

Leaving a round chambered is an insane safety hazard, just saying.

If you keep your finger off the trigger it's perfectly safe, and if you're not proficient enough in your weapon to accomplish that you shouldn't be carrying it for self-defense.

Clearly you've not yet seen the video of a government agent losing his service weapon while dancing. Said service weapon discharged on contact with the ground and injured a bystander.

Regardless of whether you believe/know a gun to loaded or unloaded, do not point it at anything you don't want a hole in.

[Kagus]

Leaving a round chambered is an insane safety hazard, just saying.

If you keep your finger off the trigger it's perfectly safe, and if you're not proficient enough in your weapon to accomplish that you shouldn't be carrying it for self-defense.

Clearly you've not yet seen the video of a government agent losing his service weapon while dancing. Said service weapon discharged on contact with the ground and injured a bystander.

Regardless of whether you believe/know a gun to loaded or unloaded, do not point it at anything you don't want a hole in.

This was made fairly clear by the sarges we had in the army: You always know if the gun is loaded or unloaded, because the gun is always loaded. Period. Regardless of whatever unloading procedure has taken place, the gun is always to be treated as being in a loaded state.


...then again, we also got to hear the story about how they don't have the bugle player call reveille anymore because the last guy got shot... So your mileage may vary.

[TamerVirus]

Why do we need guns when we can just simply kill people with exotic martial arts that cause organs to violently explode?

[hector13]

You are already dead.

[Parsely]

Clearly you've not yet seen the video of a government agent losing his service weapon while dancing. Said service weapon discharged on contact with the ground and injured a bystander.

Regardless of whether you believe/know a gun to loaded or unloaded, do not point it at anything you don't want a hole in.

I was not arguing that it's OK to point your gun in an unsafe direction. I maintain that if the gun is properly retained and handled (finger off the trigger) it cannot go off, this is my argument that you can safely wear your firearm with a round in the chamber, hammer cocked, and the safety on, not that it's OK to sweep people with the muzzle of your gun just because you know your finger isn't on the trigger. Gun safety isn't just about being safe it's about making other people feel safe.

Soldiers and civilian professionals in certain roles wear their weapons in Condition 1 and do it safely because they're proficient enough to retain their weapons, know what the status is of their weapon at all times, and ensure that even if there is an accident their weapon is always pointed in a safe direction. Therefore it's possible for people interested in firearms self-defense to do so as well, but they must be proficient in their weapon. That includes choosing a holster that will retain your pistol while doing other activities and/or keeping your weapon in a status that's appropriate for what you plan to be doing. If professionals fail to do this it doesn't mean it's impossible, it means that individual is unprofessional.