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[martinuzz]

That's the whole problem. 'Because we weren't very profitable'.

Healthcare should never strive for profit, because then you have a perverse incentive to keep people dependant on healthcare for profit's sake, or, as you said earlier, to keep beds filled, even if your facility isn't capable of providing all the needed care.

[Kagus]

See: The Goldman Sachs review of whether or not it was a sustainable business practice to cure patients.

I mean, that's kind of a creepy question to begin with, but the report goes deeper into things like their Hep C treatment, and how it's not only curing individuals (which is bad for business), but that the treatments are reducing the incident pool because there are fewer contagious people spreading the disease.

The fact that something like that can get discussed under the topic of profits is terrifying.

[wierd]

But the invisible hand!!  Laissez faire is the word of GOD!

DONT YOU BELIEVE IN THE FREE MARKET!?

/sarcasm.  Dripping, molten, caustic sarcasm

[Loud Whispers]

See: The Goldman Sachs review of whether or not it was a sustainable business practice to cure patients.

I mean, that's kind of a creepy question to begin with, but the report goes deeper into things like their Hep C treatment, and how it's not only curing individuals (which is bad for business), but that the treatments are reducing the incident pool because there are fewer contagious people spreading the disease.

The fact that something like that can get discussed under the topic of profits is terrifying.

Ah

I do wish we rather still had a rage thread

[McTraveller]

MARKETS JUST WANT TO BE FREE.

It would be nice if we actually had more of a free market actually.  Barriers to entry are so high for most industries they are de facto restricted (by, for instance, capital cost requirements), even if not explicitly restricted by things like IP or compliance restrictions.

When it comes to thing like medicine, I would actually fully support a public lab that would do the research and development for drugs specifically so they wouldn't be patent-encumbered and could be made readily available to more people at reasonable cost.  Heck, I wonder if taxes would actually have a better ROI if we did it that way instead of funding, say, medicare... a billion dollars to develop a drug is peanuts compared to the national annual spending on drugs.

[George_Chickens]

Yes, avoiding Steven Universe is indeed a wise course of action.

Hmm, debatable. :3

One heck of a debate. Wise course of action, or wisest course of action? Find out next time on Dragonball Z

That show hasn't been the same since Vegeta suffered a bowel prolapse.

Vegeta just was not the same person after Dr Picollo's treatments.

[Rolan7]

MARKETS JUST WANT TO BE FREE.

It would be nice if we actually had more of a free market actually.  Barriers to entry are so high for most industries they are de facto restricted (by, for instance, capital cost requirements), even if not explicitly restricted by things like IP or compliance restrictions.

When it comes to thing like medicine, I would actually fully support a public lab that would do the research and development for drugs specifically so they wouldn't be patent-encumbered and could be made readily available to more people at reasonable cost.  Heck, I wonder if taxes would actually have a better ROI if we did it that way instead of funding, say, medicare... a billion dollars to develop a drug is peanuts compared to the national annual spending on drugs.

I agree on both counts (markets being de facto restricted, and public drug R&D).  Seems to me that health care, including pharmaceutical research, is one of the most strategic resources you could have.  Our current profit-oriented system does drive development, but only with astronomic costs.  (And as usual we pay the costs, and the world benefits - that'd be more obvious if we the USA owned these patents we pay for.)

[Loud Whispers]

Vegeta just was not the same person after Dr Picollo's treatments.

Thanks doc

[Trekkin]

When it comes to thing like medicine, I would actually fully support a public lab that would do the research and development for drugs specifically so they wouldn't be patent-encumbered and could be made readily available to more people at reasonable cost.  Heck, I wonder if taxes would actually have a better ROI if we did it that way instead of funding, say, medicare... a billion dollars to develop a drug is peanuts compared to the national annual spending on drugs.

What do you think the NIH funds, exactly?

[Hanslanda]

The girl I went to senior prom with made a dress out of Dorito bags and I am just now seeing posts about it on social media.

[Dunamisdeos]

Seen that. It's a legit meme now.

[Kagus]

I've seen someone open up a bag of Tostitos, add some (uncooked) chopped hot dog pieces, then pour in Clamato.

Fuckin *hork*

[scriver]

The girl I went to senior prom with made a dress out of Dorito bags and I am just now seeing posts about it on social media.

Are you the guy in the picture?

[Doomblade187]

I've seen someone open up a bag of Tostitos, add some (uncooked) chopped hot dog pieces, then pour in Clamato.

Fuckin *hork*

WHAT KIND OF MONSTER.

Disclaimer: I have never tried clamato.

The girl I went to senior prom with made a dress out of Dorito bags and I am just now seeing posts about it on social media.

Are you the guy in the picture?

We must know.

[Kagus]

I've seen someone open up a bag of Tostitos, add some (uncooked) chopped hot dog pieces, then pour in Clamato.

Fuckin *hork*

WHAT KIND OF MONSTER.

Disclaimer: I have never tried clamato.

Apparently it was just some foul variation of an otherwise common Mexican snack food (Tostilocos), but... Still eugh.

Not that people north of the border have shown any responsibility in handling Clamato either, as evidenced by this monstrosity sighted at Walmart.