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« Reply #128115 on: October 29, 2017, 07:26:35 am »

Take out the hub of a major intergalactic criminal organization(the Hutts, possibly more)

But the empire liked Jabba. A corrupt regime enjoys having some thugs around that you can give the dirty jobs to.

Less liked and more tolerated. And being a criminal empire that's both above and below ground (Read: Hutt space exists) blowing up one hutt planet wouldn't really make a big dint in their influence compared to the shitstorm that'd culminate as a result.
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« Reply #128116 on: October 29, 2017, 07:38:12 am »

You're right, I was going to write that but I just thought we couldn't discount the fact that she might have gone past there on purpose. She did write the message mere seconds before the escape pod left, so it wasn't a pre-planned thing. Still, it'd be one hell of a coincidence if tatooine just happens to be on the route from Scarrif to Alderan. And on the route from the Corsucant to Naboo. And on the route from ... etc etc. One hell of a "remote" planet.

It's supposed to be in the Outer Rim. Not sure where Scarrif is, but I'm pretty sure both Alderaan and Naboo, and certainly sure Coruscant, are all closer to the galactic core.

Something about hyperspace lanes? Or was that just something they put into KotOR?
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« Reply #128117 on: October 29, 2017, 08:49:19 am »

According to the (old, possibly unofficial) map of the Star Wars galaxy I have, Alderaan is actually quite close, hyperdrive-wise, to Coruscant, which is indeed near the galactic core. Tatooine, on the other hand, is way out near the rim. Naboo isn't quite as far out (Mid Rim) but is certainly closer to Tatooine than Coruscant.

Like I said though, the map is out of date and so doesn't include Scarif. Wookiepedia says that Scarif's in the Abrion sector of the Outer Rim, which this map places relatively close to the Arkanis sector that contains Tatooine.
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« Reply #128118 on: October 29, 2017, 08:57:01 am »

To be fair Han does say in Episode IV that the computer needs to figure out the hyperspace jump else they might jump through a star.

It would stand to reason that people are likely to take routes they know are safe so as to avoid doing that. While Tatooine is in the outer rim, given it’s position as a point for smugglers to meet, the routes to and from will be well known.
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« Reply #128119 on: October 29, 2017, 09:31:27 am »

Completely destroying a planet with nukes would be almost impossible.  It would be like leveling a mountain with nothing but bullets fired from assault rifles.
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« Reply #128120 on: October 29, 2017, 09:48:34 am »

The Death Star I destruction was an inside job
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« Reply #128121 on: October 29, 2017, 09:49:15 am »

Completely destroying a planet with nukes would be almost impossible.  It would be like leveling a mountain with nothing but bullets fired from assault rifles.
So you're telling me there's a chance?
Well, every bullet will deal scratch damage. With enough rifles and time, the mountain will turn to dust and piles of lead. And if you pick up the bullets, only dust.

Speaking of Star Wars and Tatooine, is it not wierd that Luke has the last name Skywalker?

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Skywalker and Amidala escaped from Geonosis with their lives, after being rescued by a Jedi strike team and the Grand Army of the Republic. The rescue led to the Battle of Geonosis, sparking the Clone Wars between the Republic and the Separatist Alliance. After the battle, Skywalker returned with Amidala to Naboo under the pretense that he was escorting her back home, as the Jedi High Council was unaware that the Padawan had fallen in love with the senator. In reality, the two star-crossed lovers were married[1] at Varykino, a lake retreat in Lake Country on Naboo.[4] The union was witnessed by the droids C-3PO and R2-D2. The marriage remained a secret, as Skywalker could have been expelled from the Jedi Order if the union was discovered by the Jedi Council.[1]

I mean a) Jedis are not supposed to get married, so the wedding of Padme and Anakin was secret, only other people knowing about it being C3PO and
               R2D2. So unless C3PO told Obi-Wan about it before his memory was deleted, Obi-Wan should have given Luke the name Amidala.
           b) There was only one other Skywalker from Tatooine. If they wanted Luke to stay hidden, they should have given him a different name. Like
               Lars.
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« Reply #128122 on: October 29, 2017, 10:00:17 am »

Wedding of Anakin Skzwalker and Padme Amidala[/url]

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« Reply #128123 on: October 29, 2017, 10:01:36 am »

The real question is why the Star Wars galaxy is so intensely traditional that the family name of a male orphan slave overwrites the family name of a female senator and royalty.
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« Reply #128124 on: October 29, 2017, 10:11:35 am »

Because Obi-wan is a prick and practically set the boy up for a career in terrorism. That, and also setting in motion Darth Vader chucking Palpatine off his chair down a hole to keep his kid alive.
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« Reply #128125 on: October 29, 2017, 10:12:21 am »

The real question is why the Star Wars galaxy is so intensely traditional that the family name of a male orphan slave overwrites the family name of a female senator and royalty.

Because Amidala might be too recognizeable? Also, Tatoonie is literally a backwater backwater world. Plus Leia didn't keep her birth surname either, she is known as Leia Organa. Isn't Skywalker the last name of the couple that adopted him?

I suppose ultimately, the double trilogy is done out of order and it'd be impossible to retcon Luke's last name even if Lucas wanted to.
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« Reply #128126 on: October 29, 2017, 10:16:23 am »

Wedding of Anakin Skzwalker and Padme Amidala[/url]

Arnie Skizzwalker and his son, Larry Skizzwalker.
Yeah, messed up my "z" and "y" keys. On czech keyboard, they are switched.


The real question is why the Star Wars galaxy is so intensely traditional that the family name of a male orphan slave overwrites the family name of a female senator and royalty.

Because Amidala might be too recognizeable? Also, Tatoonie is literally a backwater backwater world. Plus Leia didn't keep her birth surname either, she is known as Leia Organa. Isn't Skywalker the last name of the couple that adopted him?

I suppose ultimately, the double trilogy is done out of order and it'd be impossible to retcon Luke's last name even if Lucas wanted to.
Yes, Amidala would be also recognizeable. But they could have named him something common on Tatooine that was not linked to Vader. And if they named him Lars, they could have pretended he was Beru's and Oven's son.
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« Reply #128127 on: October 29, 2017, 10:24:41 am »

How commonly known is it that Darth Vader is Anakin Skywalker (before Luke and Leia learned of it)? Sure, some might have remembered an Anakin Skywalker from his youth, but the great majority would only know Darth Vader as Darth Vader.

AFAIK, canonically, the only ones who knew the connection are Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Palpatine. Also possibly Organa and Owen and Beru.
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« Reply #128128 on: October 29, 2017, 10:31:36 am »

This is one of those things you can gloss over but when the backstory starts to get filled in then it all comes apart.

e.g. I don't believe the name "Anakin Skywalker" is ever uttered in the original trilogy, and his uncle and aunt are always referred to as just "Uncle Owen and "Aunt Beru". So they could have been the Skywalker family, and his father could have had a different name altogether. So in the original trilogy this naming problem didn't exist.

But you know the one thing I always thought was odd was that Darth didn't know about Owen and Beru, considering the way they talked in the first movie make it clear they certainly knew who he was. Perhaps originally his uncle was meant to be his real uncle, but Lucas retconned that. It just doesn't feel right, the "Lars" talk like they knew Vader before and after the "change" in the first movie, but with the way the prequels went, that would be impossible.

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« Reply #128129 on: October 29, 2017, 10:35:53 am »

Well, you see, Luke never actually had a legal name the way we do given as Tatooine is largely without a government and even if proper authorities existed I highly doubt Kenobi and the Larses went through those when given care of the infant. Thus Luke only went by his given name and, when needed, his foster parents would use the name of the relative of theirs that connected them together - Mama Skywalker's. Thus, Luke Skywalker.

How commonly known is it that Darth Vader is Anakin Skywalker (before Luke and Leia learned of it)? Sure, some might have remembered an Anakin Skywalker from his youth, but the great majority would only know Darth Vader as Darth Vader.

AFAIK, canonically, the only ones who knew the connection are Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Palpatine. Also possibly Organa and Owen and Beru.

I think so too. As far as anyone else is concerned Anakin Skywalker just disappears together with all the other Jedi; even if there was a rumour that Vader was a Jedi traitor there's little reason anyone should assume it's Anakin rather than any other of the 20 000 Jedi who died or was never heard from again.
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