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[heydude6]

Spoiler: Americapol-lite (click to show/hide)

So why was the statue taken down?

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In a town named Charletton, they were considering taking down a confederate statue. White supremacists protested against that idea, but there were also counter-protesters who were protesting the protesting. The counter protesters outnumbered the protesters. The two groups eventually became violent with each other and they fought, a notable part of the fight was a white supremacist  deliberately running over several counter protesters with a car, killing one and injuring around a dozen. Though the counter protesters outnumbered the supremacists, the supremacists inflicted more casualties.

As part of the aftermath of this event, many confederate statues were toppled to teach the white supremacists a lesson. This most recent statue removal is notable since this is the first one officially sanctioned by the government rather than having it done by an angry mob.

This is just a summary though and I glossed over many important details, such as the terrible way in which the police handled the event, the doxing of the supremacists after the protest, Donald trump's controversial reaction, and the current debate about the neo-nazi question.

[Caz]

Please don't slander the good name of scimitars

Scimitars are awesome... I am already getting tired of Katanas can we bring Scimitars back?

Agree, scimitars are superior.

[Caz]

Accomplishing a goal through "Less than reputable" means.

EG, getting grandma her favorite song, through music piracy and a burned CDR.   That kind of thing.

Thinking that torrents are shady approaches edgelord levels lol

[Loud Whispers]

Thinking that torrents are shady approaches edgelord levels lol

It's only edgy if you never seed

[AzyWng]

Please don't slander the good name of scimitars

Scimitars are awesome... I am already getting tired of Katanas can we bring Scimitars back?

Agree, scimitars are superior.

I thought Katanas Are Underpowered in D20

[Tack]

Spoiler: Americapol-lite (click to show/hide)

So why was the statue taken down?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

In a town named Charletton, they were considering taking down a confederate statue. White supremacists protested against that idea, but there were also counter-protesters who were protesting the protesting. The counter protesters outnumbered the protesters. The two groups eventually became violent with each other and they fought, a notable part of the fight was a white supremacist  deliberately running over several counter protesters with a car, killing one and injuring around a dozen. Though the counter protesters outnumbered the supremacists, the supremacists inflicted more casualties.

As part of the aftermath of this event, many confederate statues were toppled to teach the white supremacists a lesson. This most recent statue removal is notable since this is the first one officially sanctioned by the government rather than having it done by an angry mob.

This is just a summary though and I glossed over many important details, such as the terrible way in which the police handled the event, the doxing of the supremacists after the protest, Donald trump's controversial reaction, and the current debate about the neo-nazi question.

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But why did they want to take it down?
Because he was the enemy? Bonaparte has a statue.
Because he was a dick? Ned Kelly has a statue.
It seems like, unless it was a safety hazard, it didn't really deserve removal.

[scriver]

Scimitars are so mainstream. Shamshirs is where it's at.

[Frumple]

Spoiler: Americapol-lite (click to show/hide)

So why was the statue taken down?

'Cause folks, including the local officials, had been trying to get rid of the damn thing for years, and someone finally got pissed off enough to just do it.

If you're asking why they wanted it gone, well, because among other things, the thing was venerating the oppression, slavery, and murder of a great deal of the area's population's forefathers, and was specifically put in place less than a century ago to shit on civil rights. Locals wanted to stop having to drive by the thing, since it put out about a thousand wrong messages and a passel of other stuff, too.

[misko27]

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But why did they want to take it down?
Because he was the enemy? Bonaparte has a statue.
Because he was a dick? Ned Kelly has a statue.
It seems like, unless it was a safety hazard, it didn't really deserve removal.

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Statue lives matter?

I think just because people have the right to decide what statues they want and don't want. We aren't dwarves beholden to the will of RNG to decide our statuary. We are free-thinking creatures that can decide what statues we want or don't want.

On a completely unrelated note, my father is now sending me increasingly urgent emails (starting with one, extremely long email and punctured by pretty much constant calls to the house) asking to talk to me about his earlier offer to stay with him for a few days in Hell Indiana in exchange for money (there are other parts of this "deal", but thats the important bit). I'm very confused by this, as the concerns I raised last time (I don't have time, and the last trip there was terrible and inconvenient) have only become more pressing with time, not less, as I have last minute doctor appointments, work starting a week from today, I go back to college in a week and a half, and things related to that to figure out. I don't have the time without canceling other things that are important.

I just really don't see what his plan is. If he expects me to drop everything for him (which isn't a hypothetical, I know for a fact he does) he's being delusional. But while that's sort of expected, it's unusual for him to push so hard for something that is 100% not going to happen.

[scourge728]

The big difference between George Washington and Robert E Lee is that Robert E Lee is a traitor to the country the statue is in, it would be like England with a statue of George Washington

[scriver]

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But why did they want to take it down?
Because he was the enemy? Bonaparte has a statue.
Because he was a dick? Ned Kelly has a statue.
It seems like, unless it was a safety hazard, it didn't really deserve removal.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Statue lives matter?

I think just because people have the right to decide what statues they want and don't want. We aren't dwarves beholden to the will of RNG to decide our statuary. We are free-thinking creatures that can decide what statues we want or don't want.

On a completely unrelated note, my father is now sending me increasingly urgent emails (starting with one, extremely long email and punctured by pretty much constant calls to the house) asking to talk to me about his earlier offer to stay with him for a few days in Hell Indiana in exchange for money (there are other parts of this "deal", but thats the important bit). I'm very confused by this, as the concerns I raised last time (I don't have time, and the last trip there was terrible and inconvenient) have only become more pressing with time, not less, as I have last minute doctor appointments, work starting a week from today, I go back to college in a week and a half, and things related to that to figure out. I don't have the time without canceling other things that are important.

I just really don't see what his plan is. If he expects me to drop everything for him (which isn't a hypothetical, I know for a fact he does) he's being delusional. But while that's sort of expected, it's unusual for him to push so hard for something that is 100% not going to happen.

Maybe he's dying and wants to talk to you face to face?

The big difference between George Washington and Robert E Lee is that Robert E Lee is a traitor to the country the statue is in, it would be like England with a statue of George Washington

Spoiler: Or Guy Fawkes (click to show/hide)

[MetalSlimeHunt]

that statue was made by capitalists

checkmate

[Loud Whispers]

One of our best statues in London honours the warlord who burnt London to the ground

[scriver]

...Julius Ceasar?

[Loud Whispers]

...Julius Ceasar?

When Caesar scouted/battle around Britain, Londinium wasn't founded. It was founded during the reign of Emperor Claudius when the Romans started conquering, annexing and replacing all the celtic tribes and chieftains. Coupled with the near complete annihilation of the druids (imagine someone goes to your country, murders your priests, doctors, librarians, advisors and then asks you to remain docile) and their creeping annexation, the resentment of the client and conquered celtic tribes boiled into outright enmity and revolt. Where before the tribes were constantly infighting, they now fought united against the Romans - led by the warlord Boudica, who has an anime-tier tragic backstory depending on which version you're hearing. She burnt down Roman city after Roman city, leaving no survivors. When she went to London she massacred everyone there, when she found a temple full of weeping and scared Roman/Brits she set the temple on fire, shit was so lit. Then with a horde of 100,000 celts she attacked the only Roman garrison there, which numbered 5,000 men. Unfortunately this worked against them as the Romans had deliberately abandoned London to get to a more strategically optimal location (where they could not be surrounded by her superior numbers) and the psychological impact of the Romans having nowhere to retreat meant that they were willing to fight to the death, kill many celts and had lewd levels of discipline - resulting in their surprise victory and the death of celtic england.

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Come at me Bromans