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[MetalSlimeHunt]

I wonder how long I'd have to abstain from Bay 12 to lose my 2nd place slot for overall time...

[Lord Shonus]

In the film .... In the film

Sooooo, which one is actually from the book?

The second. I rearranged what I was saying halfway through, and made an editing goof.

[helmacon]

I wonder how long I'd have to abstain from Bay 12 to lose my 2nd place slot for overall time...

That makes me curious. What is everybody's overall time logged in?

[Reelya]

This reminds me how oddly interesting the starship troopers movie was.
The whole movie was played like a propaganda thing, they took the JOINING THE MILITARY AND TAKING PART IN THE INCREDIBLE GRINDER THAT IS THIS WAR IN WHICH TENS OF THOUSANDS DIE IN EVERY DAY IS THE BEST THING EVER and ran with it, completely straight. In no part of the movie do we get hints of real attempts at social critique or getting some moral point across, its just alien murder + college student friends movie. In the end, the characters become military officer badasses and its all shown as the best thing ever.

All those people that died? Nobody cares, aliens are dead.
Children holding guns in military ads? Nobody cares, aliens are dead.
Main character became exactly what his jingoistic sargeant was? Nobody cares, aliens are dead.

Its the kind of movie that you can watch again as an adult and apreciate how nutty it all is.

A shame, too, because it's on the whole much less interesting than the novel. That's how pretty much all of Heinlein's work was, interesting to consider even if you didn't necessarily buy what he was selling (free love and pseudolibertarianism, mostly). Certainly the Arachnids as described in Starship Troopers were more intriguing than the Zerg/Nid knockoffs from the films (and heaven help you if you watch the second or third). Not to mention MI being in power armor described (IIRC) as like a "hydrocephaletic gorilla" with pocket nukes and bombs that taunted the enemy in their own language. Pretty much no slugthrowers at all, either, just lots of flamethrowers and explosives.

Not to mention that, AFAIK, Heinlein bears prime responsibility for inventing the idea of drop-pods right alongside power-armored space marines. The whole thing is basically the starting point for a good chunk of the standard mil-SF fare that we assume as standard these days. It's a crying shame that the film gave us dudes in plastic costume carapace armor with generic grey brick rifles and bugs shaped like giant staple removers.

That, and dumbing down the training incidents. Went from one guy getting flogged for hitting a DI, another being hanged for going AWOL and murdering a kid, and Rico getting flogged for fucking up the handling of a simulated nuke(!) to "whoops Rico let a guy onto the live fire course with a loose helmet strap" (never mind that they were doing a live fire course with shitty partial armor-an inch lower and the helmet being off wouldn't have mattered anyways-or that in the novel one of the things they went out of the way to avoid was trainee deaths instead of embracing grimderp).

Enough of that ranting though.

There's a reason for all of that. Originally, it was from an entirely unrelated script called "Bug Hunt at Outpost Nine", but then they licensed the Starship Troopers name. Not kidding.

[Sergarr]

I wonder how long I'd have to abstain from Bay 12 to lose my 2nd place slot for overall time...

That makes me curious. What is everybody's overall time logged in?

Are we doing this again? We're doing this again, aren't we.

Total time logged in: 216 days, 12 hours and 52 minutes.

[Reelya]

I wonder how long I'd have to abstain from Bay 12 to lose my 2nd place slot for overall time...

That makes me curious. What is everybody's overall time logged in?

Are we doing this again? We're doing this again, aren't we.

Total time logged in: 216 days, 12 hours and 52 minutes.

Pfft, what is with that lightweight shit?

Total time logged in: 224 days, 15 hours and 22 minutes.

[Lord Shonus]

This reminds me how oddly interesting the starship troopers movie was.
The whole movie was played like a propaganda thing, they took the JOINING THE MILITARY AND TAKING PART IN THE INCREDIBLE GRINDER THAT IS THIS WAR IN WHICH TENS OF THOUSANDS DIE IN EVERY DAY IS THE BEST THING EVER and ran with it, completely straight. In no part of the movie do we get hints of real attempts at social critique or getting some moral point across, its just alien murder + college student friends movie. In the end, the characters become military officer badasses and its all shown as the best thing ever.

All those people that died? Nobody cares, aliens are dead.
Children holding guns in military ads? Nobody cares, aliens are dead.
Main character became exactly what his jingoistic sargeant was? Nobody cares, aliens are dead.

Its the kind of movie that you can watch again as an adult and apreciate how nutty it all is.

A shame, too, because it's on the whole much less interesting than the novel. That's how pretty much all of Heinlein's work was, interesting to consider even if you didn't necessarily buy what he was selling (free love and pseudolibertarianism, mostly). Certainly the Arachnids as described in Starship Troopers were more intriguing than the Zerg/Nid knockoffs from the films (and heaven help you if you watch the second or third). Not to mention MI being in power armor described (IIRC) as like a "hydrocephaletic gorilla" with pocket nukes and bombs that taunted the enemy in their own language. Pretty much no slugthrowers at all, either, just lots of flamethrowers and explosives.

Not to mention that, AFAIK, Heinlein bears prime responsibility for inventing the idea of drop-pods right alongside power-armored space marines. The whole thing is basically the starting point for a good chunk of the standard mil-SF fare that we assume as standard these days. It's a crying shame that the film gave us dudes in plastic costume carapace armor with generic grey brick rifles and bugs shaped like giant staple removers.

That, and dumbing down the training incidents. Went from one guy getting flogged for hitting a DI, another being hanged for going AWOL and murdering a kid, and Rico getting flogged for fucking up the handling of a simulated nuke(!) to "whoops Rico let a guy onto the live fire course with a loose helmet strap" (never mind that they were doing a live fire course with shitty partial armor-an inch lower and the helmet being off wouldn't have mattered anyways-or that in the novel one of the things they went out of the way to avoid was trainee deaths instead of embracing grimderp).

Enough of that ranting though.

There's a reason for all of that. Originally, it was written and under production as a completely unrelated film called "Bug Hunt at Outpost Nine", but then they licensed the Starship Troopers name. Not kidding.

Followed by Verhoeven reading about a third of the book and deciding it was "fascist trash" and discarding it.

Honestly, if there was ever a director that only had one or two good movies in him, Verhoeven was him.

[Frumple]

Huh. Login time got me to check the rankings for the first time in a while. Pretty sure I've gone up one or two. Seem to recall it was either 8th or 10th, last I checked, and apparently it's hit 6th.

[IronTomato]

The snow isn't even done melting yet and it was fucking 80F outside today.

G L O B A L  W A R M I N G.

[ChairmanPoo]

I wonder how long I'd have to abstain from Bay 12 to lose my 2nd place slot for overall time...

That makes me curious. What is everybody's overall time logged in?

Are we doing this again? We're doing this again, aren't we.

Total time logged in: 216 days, 12 hours and 52 minutes.

tal Time Spent Online:177 days, 23 hours and 14 minutes

[Helgoland]

Eleven hours away from 69 days.

[Reelya]

Where can said ranking be checked? nvm, found them. Too bad they don't go below 10th.

[pisskop]

The snow isn't even done melting yet and it was fucking 80F outside today.

G L O B A L  W A R M I N G.

global warming doesnt alter the temperatures at which ice melts you clownhole.
:p

and when snow melts and refreezes it forms a protective layer of insulation for the snow underneath

[pisskop]

>.>
<.<

Total time logged in: 345 days, 14 hours and 0 minutes.

[Sirus]

446 days and counting v-(O_o)-v