Ohh man, it is soo important that I have these sources. I mean everything I said hinges on it.
Sources are particularly important in any context. Otherwise I can just walk in here and say "specialists say good sportsmanship cures cancer". Yes, it is an absurd example, but you'd be surprised at how often it is used. For instance, you claim that sportsmanship is bad. Yet you do not prove it. You do not provide a basis for your statement.
Wikipedia is unfortunately not a trustworthy source due to it being editable by anyone for any reason. (It is, however, a good source of sources, checking a page's bottom is a really good idea.)
RE: Please discussion. People need to remember that there is more than one culture in the planet. Just because the (I assume, mea culpa if wrongly assumed) north american culture uses, according to the discussion so far, please in a coercive manner, doesn't mean that applies to everywhere. Refusing a request, please or not, is, in and of itself, not rude. Telling them to fuck off is.
What exactly are you trying to argue, again? You've completely lost me here.
That just because something is manners it doesn't mean it isn't fake.
That is actually it.
But people contested that point by saying that because something is a convention it means it isn't fake because conventions are good and because it is a convention it is "just something you do" devoid of all meaning and context.
So I had to go on a tangent to prove that just because something is a convention it doesn't mean it is necessarily good.
And it gone on by this...
ALL THIS! just so people can sleep well at night thinking that everytime someone says GG they actually mean it or that somehow by being manners that there is absolutely no meaning in "Good Game".
All while I tried to get people to ignore me by saying that I am the only one on earth bothered by fake politeness.
Fake politeness is sometimes the only thing preventing two people that hate each other from coming to blows.
Manners is about as fake as you mean it to be. I only say "GG" in games when it's actually been a good game. I don't mind losing, but I do mind games where half the players act like spoiled toddlers (and thus don't say GG). But my point is: just because something is not sincere, doesn't mean it is bad. Just because I say good day/afternoon/night to people I meet even if I am having a really bad day, does not make me pure undiluted evil. Because not deliberately offending random people, even if you need to lie about it, is what allow society to function.
You, Neo, seem to be operating from a viewpoint that Honest = Good. It is not. Sometimes honesty can cause a person to kill themselves, sometimes a lie is what lets them keep going.
Fakeedit: And of course the discussion seems to end as I click post. Disregard or not at your own discretion.
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