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[Descan]

any analogy to real-world property theft fails because in digital piracy there is nothing being taken out from control of the owner

in physical theft, the owner loses out on the money from the sale (assuming you steal from a store, and assuming you would otherwise buy the product) AND the item itself. they can't sell the same shirt you stole because you physically control it, there's no matter duplicator ray or something involved here.

in digital piracy, the owner loses out on the money from the sale (again, assuming you would buy it otherwise. given that the original conversation involved pirating a game you already purchased from them, I'm guessing you wouldn't buy it again, so in this case the owner is not losing said sale money) but does NOT lose the product. They can sell it again and again and again, as long as they retain a master template with which to create a copy to give to any purchaser.

and it's easier to say that the owner loses money from the theft of a physical object than it is from the piracy of a digital product, because they can't sell that shirt to someone else after the theft. with digital products there is no moral obligation for you to purchase the product (as opposed to simply not acquiring the product at all), so it's a little iffy to say they "lose money" based on them not selling it to you, whether you go on to pirate it or not. (and there also is no moral obligation to purchase with physical products, but at least with physical products you still have the object which has some intrinsic value. you can actually use the object for something else, or sell it to someone else if you miss a sale and haven't been stolen from)

to say that piracy from previous ownership is like buying a shirt and then stealing a new one once the old shirt has been rendered unusable (by the owner, in this analogy) fails because you're not taking a second physical object that they can't sell. it's more like re-creating the design of the shirt after losing it, so that you have a second copy of the shirt and the original owners retain the same number of shirts to sell (3D printers for example, though you wouldn't print a shirt because it's kind of hard to do that with woven fabric, or photo-shop and silk-screening a different shirt with the same design, to name some real-world ways you would actually do this)

[miauw62]

Lol the rimworld dude got so mad at people disagreeing with him that he locked his thread on this forum.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Are you sure it was him? I figured it was a NMS situation. Toady usually posts when he shuts down a long thread, but not always.

*grumble grumble transhumanism thread*

[Akura]

Yeah, that one does look weird. But it did look like a shitstorm was brewing and either the OP or Toady shut it down without comment. There's nothing in the moderation log(so no bans/mutes), so I would guess it was the OP.

Spoiler: More TWD:S2 WTFery (click to show/hide)

The second she appears in the very first episode, I knew Sarah wasn't going to survive. But they really liked kicking you in the face for trying to keep her alive. There's at least three points where she can die: the first is leaving her catatonic in a mobile home as walkers surround it - had to slap her to get her moving. Then you can forget to have Mike take her(still catatonic) when walkers attack following a scavenging run(because the other option is two jugs of water you really need). Then there's when an observation deck collapses(in earlier times, a lawsuit waiting to happen), she falls, and you can either abandon her, or send Jane(like Molly in S1, except not a relative of Altair) to go save her... except the writers just smack Jane in the face with a piece of wood(literally), so you have to watch half a dozen walkers dive on her and start chowing down.

Okay, fine, I get it. She was useless anyway. But did they really have to go so far to railroad it? At least Ben warned the group about how bites aren't the cause of new walkers.

[Draignean]

Are you sure it was him? I figured it was a NMS situation. Toady usually posts when he shuts down a long thread, but not always.

*grumble grumble transhumanism thread*

My first thought was an excited "WE HAVE A TRANSHUMANISM THREAD? AWESOME, LET ME G-"

At which point the part of my brain capable parsing context cut in and added. "No, we had a transhumanism thread."

Very sad.

[Flying Dice]

Either would have been justified. People were trying to start up, by my count, at least two of the lines of discussion most prone to leading to locked threads. And in the most antagonistic way possible, to boot. Dev might have locked it to preempt people getting it locked (possibly intentionally) with their brawl over gender/sexuality/Gamergate, Toady might have locked it while processing reports. IDK.


e: Yyyy-eeep. 'nother manufactured controversy, RPS being the shitty clickbaiting shills they are, all that lovely stuff.

[Tack]

So this is a somewhat overdue wtf but I thought I'd share.

Too many posts passed without comment I feel the need to note that I appreciated this.

[Yoink]

So this is a somewhat overdue wtf but I thought I'd share.

Too many posts passed without comment I feel the need to note that I appreciated this.

Whoa, I think I somehow posted my response in the Happy Thread.
This is what happens when you try to make multiple-quote replies across two threads at once shortly after waking up. >.>

[Dunamisdeos]

Regarding the piracy and untrustworthy game companies thing, I'm not suggesting a solution. I don't care about solving the problem. I ain't no corporate avenger.

However, now that you know what they do, and that they will do this to you every time, stop buying their games.

Now it won't happen to you anymore.

[overseer05-15]

My joyous wtf: Skyrim is way better than I expected it to be.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

is it appropriate to be the archmage before entering whiterun

[Rolan7]

Whiterun?  Last time I played I became archmage before entering Helgen!
Live Another Life is crucial for replayability (skips the opening sequence, no dragons at all until you happen across the ruins of Helgen)

[Gunner-Chan]

Another reason you want a new start mod is the intro can break easy if you have a few heavy script mods running. So it's pretty much a requirement if you're heavily modding the game.

[redwallzyl]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/04/500685316/samsung-recalls-2-8-million-top-load-washers-over-disloding-lids

Its a bad year for Samsung.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Samsung is the pinnacle of form before function. I've been inside one of their investor showcases before. Cool, shiny, and useless if you're a human.

[Furtuka]

Oh god the movie version of the Megazord looks terrible. Like it barely even looks like a mecha. WHY DOES IT HAVE CHAINMAIL SKIN? WHY IS IT SO UGLY? WHERE'S THE RECOGNIZABLE PARTS? WHERE'S THE NONHUMAN PROPORTIONS AND FEATURES THAT MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS AN AWESOME MACHINE INSTEAD OF A LARGE PERSON? WHY DOES IT LOOK LIKE A GUY IN NORMAL ARMOR AND NOT EVEN A GUY IN A BOXY SUIT? WHY IS ITS USE OF ITS COLORSCHEME SO BORING? WHY DO YOU FAIL AT MECH DESIGN SO BADLY HOLLYWOOD? WHY? WHY? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!?!?!?!