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[overseer05-15]

I'm not gonna say whether piracy is bad or not, but you could probably get a court behind you claiming EA for anywhere from theft to grand larceny depending on your library

Though to quote lawyerman:

Please don't quote me.

[hops]

I'm going to Hell for laughing at that.

[Frumple]

Though nah, you couldn't. You could try, but it wouldn't gain traction and you may face legal penalties for a spurious lawsuit. You might be able to get them on contract violation of some sort, but theft, larceny, etc., all pretty much require loss of a physical good (and some degree of malfeasance, iirc -- there's other stuff for accidental/intentional-but-legal destruction and whatnot, if my memory's working). EA nixing your origin library does not destroy any CDs you may have, or whathaveyou (and even if they did, it wouldn't mean much, as the CDs themselves are barely worth anything in and of themselves).

Copyright infringement est, for better or worse, and is something very different from theft simply due to the nature of the good in question.

[TempAcc]

Copyright infringement is its own class of violation, almost completely unrelated to theft apart from the fact it also damages one's right to proprierty in certain ways. Well, at least thats how the theory goes in some western legislations. Copyright is an umbrella term that covers rights that have economical expression and the creators rights over his creation, and these are handled differently, having different expiration dates, etc.

[Sirus]

Good news: It is the battery, not the starter or alternator. The AAA tech I called out seems to think so, anyway, and was able to jump the car.
Bad news: The fact that it died overnight, with no lights on, and has been having difficulty cranking for the past week, tells me it still needs to be replaced and the shops don't open for another couple of hours yet. The battery in this model of car is also a pain to access.

[Kot]

Rich people.

[Emma]

Just poked around the Steam board for Alice: Madness Returns - which I bought but never played as it required an EA account for a single-player game[/i] - and there's several topics regarding it disappearing from both the Steam store and Origin. One of them mentioned some method of playing it on Steam, but that required downloading 900MB of possibly legally questionable files and playing around with the configs, so I don't know how that works out. Maybe it bypasses the requirement for an EA account, I don't know.

Yeah, that's the part that makes me angry. They took singleplayer games, forcibly made them multiplayer for no reason, then shut them down forever because the multiplayer servers cost too much? Who even does things like that?!

EA? I'm not really a big fan of them, some of the stuff I've read doesn't exactly make them seem like nice people.

[overseer05-15]

Though nah, you couldn't. You could try, but it wouldn't gain traction and you may face legal penalties for a spurious lawsuit. You might be able to get them on contract violation of some sort, but theft, larceny, etc., all pretty much require loss of a physical good (and some degree of malfeasance, iirc -- there's other stuff for accidental/intentional-but-legal destruction and whatnot, if my memory's working). EA nixing your origin library does not destroy any CDs you may have, or whathaveyou (and even if they did, it wouldn't mean much, as the CDs themselves are barely worth anything in and of themselves).

Copyright infringement est, for better or worse, and is something very different from theft simply due to the nature of the good in question.

So this is gonna sound really stupid but could you get them for pirating the games from you?

[martinuzz]

No, they didn't download anything. However, if they ever bring out a new 'updated' version of the game that works without steam, you might just be able to get them sued for cyberhijacking. (You know, that thing were criminal hackers lock your files and demand ransom to unlock them)

[Frumple]

... considering you don't own the copyright to their games. And piracy is, by and large, copyright infringement and nothing else. No. You couldn't.

Also good bloody gods mart, no, you couldn't. At sodding all.

[martinuzz]

... considering you don't own the copyright to their games. And piracy is, by and large, copyright infringement and nothing else. No. You couldn't.

Also good bloody gods mart, no, you couldn't. At sodding all.

Not under the current interpretation of law. But laws aren't set in stone.

First you need to make an argument for both the updated version and the Steam version being the same product, just in a different box.
Let's make an analogue with board games.
Imagine, you bought Monopoly in a shiny red box. You and your family enjoy Monopoly for a while, but then the game design's patent holder pushes a button, and the shiny red box in your cupboard activates a padlock system and you can't open your box anymore. A few weeks later, there's new monopoly games in the toy store, now in shiny black boxes. Would you accept that as a customer? Would you simply agree with the statement 'you don't own a monopoly game anymore' just because the box is locked? Would you spend money again for a new monopoly game to play with your family? Or would you say f* this, take a hacksaw and rip that shiny red box (or rather, force the patent holder to unlock your red box through lawsuit)?

[Draignean]

... considering you don't own the copyright to their games. And piracy is, by and large, copyright infringement and nothing else. No. You couldn't.

Also good bloody gods mart, no, you couldn't. At sodding all.

Not under the current interpretation of law. But laws aren't set in stone.

I'll bet you a hundred dollars to a ham sandwich that the laws are not suddenly going to change in order to favor that one, for various reasons.

[Neonivek]

Also sorry this should have gone in my personal thread... in fact I'll move it.

[martinuzz]

Butwait... Isn't DF RTP as well?

[Tiruin]

Maybe it's just me and my computer being silly somehow, but it seems that all avatars from photobucket.com are...broken or down? All I see is the ripped picture icon and a blank box in many people's avatar areas, including mine.

How or why do these happen to the hosting sites?