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[Truean]

It seems most of the libraries, restaurants, etc, no longer have anything but hard metal seating, not even hard wood seating. There used to be cushions in this library, but then it seems they had a "problem" with homeless people. [sigh] Perhaps we should give them somewhere to go but that's another all too tragic matter.

What happened to the seating? They used to have comfortable seating and now they just don't? They actually paid to have it replaced? They actually devoted resources to making things less comfortable to speed people along? O.... Come on, please, what? Awwwwwww.

[Frumple]

For what it's worth, most of the libraries where I'm at (poor, rural, overstuffed and underfunded) have pretty comfortable chairs, at least in part.

That said, it kinda' sounds like some nitwit thought that new-ish "modern" style (i.e. metal and glass) was a good idea. I've met a few of those crazy people before.

[pisskop]

if youre comfortable and its pleasant, than its wrong comrade

[MetalSlimeHunt]

We'll drive the rabble out yet.

[TheBiggerFish]

Wow.

[Orange Wizard]

We'll drive the rabble out yet.

Oh, those fucking things. Better than floor spikes, I guess.

That said, it kinda' sounds like some nitwit thought that new-ish "modern" style (i.e. metal and glass) was a good idea. I've met a few of those crazy people before.

One of the bigger libraries 'round here has the whole steel-glass architecture, and a tiled floor. Really nice armchairs though. Almost makes up for it.

[Flying Dice]

Here's the thing about homeless people in libraries.

Yes, we're ethically and legally obligated to serve all citizens, and we endeavor to do so. But we also do have basic rules of conduct. If someone who smells of stale urine and body odor badly enough to make your eyes water decides to camp out on a bench in your reading area, that disrupts the ability of others to use the facility. If someone decides to bathe in the only restroom and locks themselves inside for forty minutes, the same. If someone responds to an attempt to talk about an issue like that and what can be done to resolve it, available services for the homeless, &c., by waiting until the librarian leaves and then going back into the stacks and urinating all over a shelf and the books on it, that's a problem.

We're there to provide resources and services to everyone, but if someone is actively disrupting the ability of others to use those resources and services, resists attempts to resolve the problem, argues with or threatens staff, &c., it's beyond a matter of "Oh, that poor person being discriminated against." There are plenty of homeless folks I know and see who are perfectly fine and cause no problems whatsoever. There are some who have issues of some sort and habitually cause problems, stalk staff, stalk children, &c. And then there's what happens when the city jail releases a bunch of petty offenders due to overcrowding and they all hop the bus line over because there's a bank to panhandle outside of, a liquor store to hang around, and a public library to misuse.

And that's at a branch a decent way from the city center. A main library is much, much worse to work at--there's a reason why they tend to have permanent security staff rather than maybe a part time rent-a-cop from time to time. It's all the issues of working in a store or restaurant in a city except that people need to be a lot more actively hostile/disruptive/creepy before you can kick them out.

If a public library has shitty furnishings, it's probably because they're badly underfunded and can't afford to replace stuff that's ruined by patrons, much less buy cushy things. Chairs and such with deep, comfortable seats are easier to damage and become much nastier much more quickly. :|

[Teneb]

We'll drive the rabble out yet.

There are similar benches in a very specific street corner in my city. They have these ridges that make it outright painful for anyone to actually lay down on them. I imagine it also makes it hard for fat people to sit there.

[Neonivek]

We'll drive the rabble out yet.

There are similar benches in a very specific street corner in my city. They have these ridges that make it outright painful for anyone to actually lay down on them. I imagine it also makes it hard for fat people to sit there.

People tend not to like to sit down on those things in general.

[hops]

Why don't we just have men in uniform that shoot poor people that loiter.

Oh wait.

[chaotic skies]

Hmmm, I wonder where we would get those people...

[hector13]

Why don't we just have men in uniform that shoot poor people that loiter.

Oh wait.

Can you say "watch-list"?

[Neonivek]

I think what killed Prison Architect for me is that it pretends to be a good game. It pretends to have a sort of grand strategy to the whole thing...

But really the game just cheats everything into place.

Where do they get drugs? Magic
Weapons? Magic (yes I am aware they can get ADDITIONAL weapons depending on where they go... But they can also magically summon weapons)

It is one of those instances where a game is suddenly a lot worse once you realize what is under the table.

Like struggling against the last boss of a videogame... then watching a video that proves you can beat the last boss by standing still and shooting because you will outdamage the boss.

I just can't play it anymore because it is kind of trite now that I realize how it works.

[Putnam]

dwarf fortress is, like, the only game i know of that has basically no magic of that sort under the covers AFAIK, and i peek under dwarf fortress's covers enough to be considered a pervert by most of society and outright arrested in multiple countries, so I would know

[chaotic skies]

dwarf fortress is, like, the only game i know of that has basically no magic of that sort under the covers AFAIK, and i peek under dwarf fortress's covers enough to be considered a pervert by most of society and outright arrested in multiple countries, so I would know

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