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[Neonivek]

Mostly games like say... Minecraft... and the league of minecraft clones.

[hops]

Mostly games like say... Minecraft... and the league of minecraft clones.

They're called dogs. You hire them with bones.

[IcyTea31]

That's all ignoring how farming in DF laughs in the face of conservation of energy.  Photosynthesis?  What photosynthesis?

Chemosynthesis, friend. How else do you think there can be any life in completely dark caverns and ocean depths?

Of course, it still doesn't make sense that one doesn't need to constantly fertilize an underground field in DF. Clearly, the soil has an infinite amount of nutrients for the crops to draw from, with any fertilizer only working as a catalyst.

[Neonivek]

Ok so what is it called when a piece of art like a movie, TVshow, or videogame... is all message/twist but no substance?

Like a game where you have to chase down your pet turtle without context and at the end of the game it turns out the turtle was trying to get away from you...

The game is ultimately vapid. It doesn't really explore its themes of obsession or the mindset of someone who could convince themselves that they are doing the right thing even when the blatantly obvious is staring them in the face. Nor does its use of imagry and symbolism dress the message. Rather it tries to get you into a position where you want to do something, then slaps your hand and goes "See! now you are a crazy stalker too!"

It is kind of why I will always hold "The Void" as the gold standard of "Art game" because every single part of the game was hand tailored towards the themes and concepts the game has, even when you think you are reading too deep (Say, thinking that maybe the colors themselves have a significance) the game outright rewards you for it.

Yet it isn't the only art game I ever felt was of value. There was a very short flash game just about a long distance relationship and you can sort of make it work or don't. Yet the point of it is that in the end the completely separate experiences created distance between you two.

There are games with themes that it explores but have just dreadful metaphors. "Ohh my a game where I play a kid... and I can only go in one direction and the more to the right I go, the older I get..." which I guess the issue is, there REALLY isn't anything to take from JUST a metaphor. In the Void you can take "Color" from veins and that certainly was a metaphor, but it had substance behind it especially with how it related to the overall experience.

I guess it is to say... Metaphor without substance is shallow, it is just an overly elaborate political cartoon. The weight people see are just what they attribute to your work, not its inherent value.

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I think I want to play another good art game... or watch a bunch of really hilariously bad art games.

[Orange Wizard]

Ok so what is it called when a piece of art like a movie, TVshow, or videogame... is all message/twist but no substance?

Crap.

[IcyTea31]

It's the equivalent of splattering paint on a canvas and calling it abstract art. You're expected to analyze and interpret it on your own, thus reducing the artist's workload in giving the work a meaning. Kind of lazy if you ask me, but I understand that some people can come up with an interpretation...and then get pretentious as other people come up with a "wrong" interpretation. Of course they do, if the artist didn't bother with a correct one!

[Yoink]

Most of my suburb seems to smell of rancid meat for some reason.
Or perhaps I just caught a whiff of my own rotten mood as I went for a walk...

[Bauglir]

If you want a real DF equivalent to feudal subsistence farming, it would probably be stone smoothing. Absolutely necessary, and so labor-intensive that even 95% of the population working together can't get it done fast enough.

so what if a mod was made that removed engravings and smoothing over time?

[i2amroy]

Ok so what is it called when a piece of art like a movie, TVshow, or videogame... is all message/twist but no substance?

Crap.

M. Night Shyamalan?

[timferius]

Ok so what is it called when a piece of art like a movie, TVshow, or videogame... is all message/twist but no substance?

Crap.

M. Night Shyamalan?

Isn't that what he said? (Ohhh sick burn).

[Bohandas]

It's the equivalent of splattering paint on a canvas and calling it abstract art.

It is art though. The important question is just whether it belongs in a museum or on somebody's refridgerator

[pisskop]

Everything could be considered  art.

Too vague too opinionated too social.

[TempAcc]

Literally everything can be considered art nowadays. Artistic value is mostly subjective at first, anyway.

[Dutrius]

Apparently bacon and other processed meats are now considered cancer-causing agents, according to a few news sources. My local news said it is worse than eating asbestos.

Doesn't everything get labelled as one with enough studies? Not sure if they're actually serious.

...Aaaaand xkcd.

Add it to the list, along with children, childlessness, being a man, and being a woman.

You may as well just replace the post with a single word: "Everything."

The big problem I have with that is that all but one of the sources link to the Daily Mail. The other one links to Facebook.

[FearfulJesuit]

I mean, the problem with asbestos isn't that you eat it. I can certainly imagine that inhaling finely-ground bacon bits into your lungs for years on end is probably worse for you than living in a house with asbestos insulation, however...