Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Neonivek]

There are a lot of thing about writing that I discovered.

George Orwell hated most of his books... and not in the typical "No writer likes his own works" sort of way either. He never intended the book to be as serious as people took the book.

People rewriting Shakespeare was not only common, happened within his lifetime, but also even scholars have hated his plays (Heck I dislike two of them and find his poetry kind of lousy... no offense).. and some of these rewrites are... Not bad actually... Some might even be better than the plays themselves.

---

As for Fanfiction being self-insert...

Well in a manner of speaking all fiction is self-insert.

[Sergarr]

my current wtf: google's autocomplete for "twilight sparkle" seems to be either broken, or the pony fandom is much more horrific than i thought it was

[GiglameshDespair]

my current wtf: google's autocomplete for "twilight sparkle" seems to be either broken, or the pony fandom is much more horrific than i thought it was

Pretty sure it's the latter.

[Putnam]

if you mean "twilight sparkle pregnant" than yeah that's a thing that it suggests to you regardless of previous affiliation

EDIT: I tested this by trying it myself and seeing that then telling my former brony brother to try it and he got the same result

WutFace

[Loud Whispers]

why do people always seem to assume that any fanfiction protag is a self-insert

It's the rule, not the exception

[Tack]

I dunno, it's down to a few things for me. I feel like a Mary sue character sometimes presupposes a level of intelligence the author might not possess, resulting in a weak storyline. (Specifically happened recently. Mary Sue used their superhuman perceptiveness and wits to root out the killer I'd already discovered half a book ago)

But if an author goes "what would I do in X situation" with their self-insert, you can get some really genuine emotions out of the character, preventing wooden protagonists, or worse, Ham.

But I think most fictional protagonists are "what if I X. What type of person would I be"

[Sergarr]

The biggest argument against Mary Sue is that one of the oldest characters in modern fiction, who is still actively evolving and incredibly popular to this day would be instantly called a Mary Sue, if it appeared in modern fanfiction.

Guess the name of that character. Hint: it starts with "S".

[miauw62]

Yeah, I hate Sam too. Tolkien did a really shoddy job there, imo

[smjjames]

The heck even, I shouldn't be surprised, yet I am. The Westboro Baptist church plans on picketing the funerals of the two women slain in the Louisiana theatre shooting.... O.o

CNN said that they said that it was punishment for gods disobedience, so, is Westboro saying that they died for Adam and Eves sins? I don't even.......

What I'm truly surprised at is that they haven't pissed off 'the wrong people' already and gotten something violent happen to them. Not that I truly wish death on anybody.

[Tack]

The biggest argument against Mary Sue is that one of the oldest characters in modern fiction, who is still actively evolving and incredibly popular to this day would be instantly called a Mary Sue, if it appeared in modern fanfiction.

Guess the name of that character. Hint: it starts with "S".

Arthur Conan Doyle made a perfectly well-balanced character, in my opinion.

[Caz]

Spoiler: writing rant rant give me more coffee pls (click to show/hide)

I've never had to so rigidly plan out any writing scene-by-scene before, or had a piece of writing give me this much trouble. I guess it's a consequence of the story heading three completely separate ways until I decided what to properly do with it. The main crux is not boring and depressing people to death with some dark subject matter, which is harder to do when the main char doesn't see the funny side of it at all. I got around it by including the POVs of other main characters, but they're just as bad - a mass murdering megalomaniac, a cutthroat rebel trying to blow up the prison so he can take over the region. The only almost semi-reasonable character in this is the cowardly chief's daughter who ran from her homeland and got everyone slaughtered instead of actually standing up for them. Derp.

Well, the despair side of it isn't that bad I guess, as long as it's not boring. I really don't want to go into narm territory.

Idk. I'll add more eldritch horrors or something. At least cataloguing all of the scenes allows me to directly see where I keep repeating myself and I can slice out all the unnecessary exposition. Goddamn exposition needs to be thrown into a volcano.

[Aklyon]

The heck even, I shouldn't be surprised, yet I am. The Westboro Baptist church plans on picketing the funerals of the two women slain in the Louisiana theatre shooting.... O.o

CNN said that they said that it was punishment for gods disobedience, so, is Westboro saying that they died for Adam and Eves sins? I don't even.......

What I'm truly surprised at is that they haven't pissed off 'the wrong people' already and gotten something violent happen to them. Not that I truly wish death on anybody.

Its probably more no one taking them seriously anymore thats kept them there.

[Rolan7]

They're pretty much their own worst enemies.
Edit: Agh thanks Tack

[Graknorke]

my current wtf: google's autocomplete for "twilight sparkle" seems to be either broken, or the pony fandom is much more horrific than i thought it was

What else would you expect? The show has run more or less the full gamut of meaningful topics available to it, so the only thing left for the fandom is a self-perpetuating torrent of pastel horse porn.


I have just consumed about a litre of food and water in the space of five minutes. Not feeling so great in terms of not exploding.

[Tack]

They're*