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[UXLZ]

True enough, at least it wasn't rapey or anything, but remember that the DM has 100% control of her and the other dude as well. Hmm... What if the Goddess's 'canon' personality would have objected?

[BlackFlyme]

Because wish fulfillment.

I don't think Sarenrae would be okay with that though. Goddess of healing, redemption, and the sun, and no mentions of anything remotely sexual in anything I've ever read.

Even ignoring the sexualization, the plot is riddled with enough holes to cause trypophobia.

[NullForceOmega]

That gets into meta territory, I, as a player, once lost a sparring match against Athena (in disguise, and my character knew nothing about the Greek pantheon), and ended up in bed with her.  You have to accept the gods as depicted, DM is final arbiter (tho' not necessarily a good arbiter.)

[Draignean]

Devil's advocate--- Fingering the goddess may not actually be off limits, given the right context.  Is she a lascivious slut of a pleasure goddess, for example? 

Really, you cant interject sexual biases against religious practices, if you want to avoid having "McDeity" type pantheons.

But that's the kind of thing you leave to the player! I think you're interpreting my emphasis improperly. HE fingered HIS goddess. If you're following a goddess of carnel pleasure, sure, that kind of thing can happen, but it's something the players should be doing. If you want to do it, you give the players all the hints, you go for the strip tease thing and show that this goddess is fine with multitasking during exposition, but you let the players take it from there. You don't go the full monty and see how they react. RPGs are about choice, and the player has to make that critical choice for anything to matter.

Some decent ideas, perhaps, but that's kind of like saying that the blood spatter from jack the ripper's knife made some artistic patterns while he was butchering prostitutes.

In terms of non-objective modern art paintings, they would fit right in.

It's true. But at the end of the day someone has to clean up all the dead whores. A brief moment of artistic expression isn't worth it.

[Sergarr]

I wonder if Lady of Pain is going to get a BSDM make-up. Would make sense, considering the DM in question.

[UXLZ]

To be fair, Lady of Pain by itself as a word has heavy BDSM undertones. Still doesn't sound like a good idea, though.

[NullForceOmega]

Devil's advocate--- Fingering the goddess may not actually be off limits, given the right context.  Is she a lascivious slut of a pleasure goddess, for example? 

Really, you cant interject sexual biases against religious practices, if you want to avoid having "McDeity" type pantheons.

But that's the kind of thing you leave to the player! I think you're interpreting my emphasis improperly. HE fingered HIS goddess. If you're following a goddess of carnel pleasure, sure, that kind of thing can happen, but it's something the players should be doing. If you want to do it, you give the players all the hints, you go for the strip tease thing and show that this goddess is fine with multitasking during exposition, but you let the players take it from there. You don't go the full monty and see how they react. RPGs are about choice, and the player has to make that critical choice for anything to matter.

Now that I absolutely agree with, the DM should not be the one doing these things, it should fully be on the players to interact with the world, and that is why the whole thing is clearly insane, and Blackflyme's DM is Bad.

[wierd]

More devil's advocate:

Let's say that you want to create a religion in your campaign specifically intended to cause "squick", because it is a central pillar in your conflict structure that your protagonists are involved in.  Your protagonists do not need to engage in, believe in, worship, or in any other way partake in the religious devotionals of this deity. 

However, this deity is a neutrally aligned (Neither wholly good, nor wholly evil) goddess with spheres of influence governing motherhood, female sexuality, female powers of seduction (including how they can be used for intrigue and gaining hidden secrets through pillow talk, as well as a tool for political assassination), and a number of other things.  This goddess really gets off on sex. REALLY.  So much so, that her altars are stylized depictions of vagayjay, and part of the rituals of supplication involve pouring oils on the "clitoris" part of the altar, and giving it a good rubbing.  Such a religion is not outside the realm of plausibility, especially if the goddess really does give good boons to her worshipers, and grants some serious buffs for stealth type female characters.

They are involved in the plot structure as part of a religious angst by your more stereotypical puritan 'Good' religions, who consider this goddesses devotional rituals to be simply lewd displays of sickening filth, and other epithets-- and you may even throw in some defilers, who simply oogle and fondle all the statuary, which angers the goddess. (She wants to be WORSHIPED, not GROPED.)

Even if such a religion is not really central to the campaign itself, its presence in the setting can add some interesting colour to the setting, if used appropriately.

[UXLZ]

Something like that? Kay, sure.

You're playing DA to a strawman though, (sort of).

That is COMPLETELY different to what Flyme's DM did.

[wierd]

I was just pointing out that "Fondling the goddess", and even having the DM be the one playing the parts of both the goddess and the fondler, may not be completely irredeemable.

It is not the action itself, it is the method of employment, and purpose of employment. Gratuitous wish fullfillment by the DM is the same basic sin as creating Mary Sue characters.  It is simply bad story telling.

[Neonivek]

I was just pointing out that "Fondling the goddess", and even having the DM be the one playing the parts of both the goddess and the fondler, may not be completely irredeemable.

It is not the action itself, it is the method of employment, and purpose of employment. Gratuitous wish fullfillment by the DM is the same basic sin as creating Mary Sue characters.  It is simply bad story telling.

I dunno... I want to kill that guy and he hasn't even done anything evil yet.

If he were to do a heel turn...

[NullForceOmega]

I made a thread for D&D/Pathfinder discussions, we could continue this over there to avoid further derailing of the WTF thread, if you guys are so inclined.

[Yoink]

The plot is riddled with enough holes to cause trypophobia.

This made me smile.
The story itself, though, didn't. Seriously why haven't you ditched this creepy motherfucker already.
Kind of reminds me of a friend-of-a-friend. I've never participated in any of his Pnp campaigns, though. I doubt they'd be as bad as your guy.

[Descan]

I mean, I like redheads, but that's absurd.

I want to fist-bump you, but considering the context, it's just... too much. @_@

[Orange Wizard]

I made a thread for D&D/Pathfinder discussions, we could continue this over there to avoid further derailing of the WTF thread, if you guys are so inclined.

Might want to link it. Some of us can't be bothered looking.