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[Descan]

Boh, what's your username on Steam?

[Bohandas]

Boh, what's your username on Steam?

"Bohandas" same as here (that's the publicly visible name at any rate)

[Rolan7]

Google adsense thinks I'm a woman.  Not only that, but I've recently had a child.
The latter is probably due to age.  Not only are all my friends marrying, but the impartial analyzer of trends is joining my parents in expecting spawn.
The former...  It's wrong, mostly.  But I thought I was more careful than that.  Honestly impressed, and a bit annoyed.

[Descan]

I saw two of them, not sure which if either are you.

[Eric Blank]

So apparently one of my mothers' coworkers is staying with us for a few days. No reason given. I haven't even met them yet, I suppose they're asleep. But why us? There's got to be somewhere more comfortable than this shithole to hole up in.

[BlackFlyme]

I can now raise undead minions, allowing me to finally pull my weight in the Pathfinder party.

Party's response? To call bullshit on me, because I raised a powerful creature, and it is a decent fighter. But it lost a lot. Like its bonus health from constitution, its feats and skills, and its spellcasting. On top of that, its most dangerous feature, its venom, has been lost as well. It is a net loss compared to the base creature.

Meanwhile the problem player is playing a four-armed character who hits four times in a round, which will become eight once it gets its next iterative attack. He can critical on a 15 to 20 on dice rolls. At least he agrees his character is stupid this time. He wants to retire it for something weaker, actually. If you consider a min-maxed wizard he got off some min-maxing site weaker.

He also asked to play his custom race again.

[Lord Shonus]

Meanwhile the problem player is playing a four-armed character who hits four times in a round, which will become eight once it gets its next iterative attack. He can critical on a 15 to 20 on dice rolls.

I've read the Pathfinder rules, and neither of these sound legit.

[Putnam]

Hey, turns out the reason Sparking was running so slow was because I wasn't cleaning up a table properly, meaning that the run time of every tick in dwarf fortress ended up increasing quadratically with number of attacks since inception.

That was bad.

[BlackFlyme]

Four arms, with multi-weapon fighting, using four kukris. There is no improved or greater multi-weapon fighting in the rules, but the DM houseruled them in, basically acting like a multi-weapon fighting version of the two-weapon fighting feat chain.

Kukri have an 18-20 critical threat range, and with the keen enchantment or with the improved critical (weapon name) feat the critical range doubles, making it 15-20.

[Rolan7]

I can now raise undead minions, allowing me to finally pull my weight in the Pathfinder party.

Party's response? To call bullshit on me, because I raised a powerful creature, and it is a decent fighter. But it lost a lot. Like its bonus health from constitution, its feats and skills, and its spellcasting. On top of that, its most dangerous feature, its venom, has been lost as well. It is a net loss compared to the base creature.

Meanwhile the problem player is playing a four-armed character who hits four times in a round, which will become eight once it gets its next iterative attack. He can critical on a 15 to 20 on dice rolls. At least he agrees his character is stupid this time. He wants to retire it for something weaker, actually. If you consider a min-maxed wizard he got off some min-maxing site weaker.

He also asked to play his custom race again.

> Powergamer feels his choice is too strong, wants to downgrade to an optimized WIZARD.
Good on him, but that's still an impressive level of system-breakage.  Not sure whose fault it would be, it being Pathfinder.

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

Four arms, with multi-weapon fighting, using four kukris.

Kukri have an 18-20 critical threat range, and with the keen enchantment or with the improved critical (weapon name) feat the critical range doubles, making it 15-20.

"I shall wipe you clean from this earth, SCUM, WITH MY QUADRUPLE KUKIRI ATTACK!"
"And I have a giant snake yayyyyyy"

[BlackFlyme]

"I shall wipe you clean from this earth, SCUM, WITH MY QUADRUPLE KUKIRI ATTACK!"
"And I have a giant snake yayyyyyy"

Yea, that's pretty much it.

"My naga skeleton goes to the nearest enemy and attacks it."
"And what are you going to do?"
"I'mma stand here, 'cuz I can't do anything."

Before that I would just go Dwarf Style and just throw random shit I had on me until I couldn't do anything else.

The divine spellcaster spell list ain't that good early game. Though it gets better, and at least my proficiencies and base attack bonuses are better than most arcane casters.

[Neonivek]

Meanwhile the problem player is playing a four-armed character who hits four times in a round, which will become eight once it gets its next iterative attack. He can critical on a 15 to 20 on dice rolls. At least he agrees his character is stupid this time. He wants to retire it for something weaker, actually. If you consider a min-maxed wizard he got off some min-maxing site weaker.

He also asked to play his custom race again.

Uhhh... You are doing the rolls wrong

Once you get your "Second iterative attack" he gets 9

And 15-20 critical threat range? Keen weapons or did he get the critical threat feat? Kukri is light so it helps.

Having Four arms isn't THAT unbalanced so to speak... essentially it is like having three feats for the price of one (You can achieve it normally by going all the way down the two weapon fighting tree)... It is certainly unbalanced if you start at level 1.

[Lord Shonus]

Kukri have an 18-20 critical threat range, and with the keen enchantment or with the improved critical (weapon name) feat the critical range doubles, making it 15-20.

A doubled 18-20 threat range is 16-20, not 15, and -basing this on the two-weapon rules- gaining another iterative attack would grant exactly one extra attack, not one attack with all weapons.

[Rolan7]

Kukri have an 18-20 critical threat range, and with the keen enchantment or with the improved critical (weapon name) feat the critical range doubles, making it 15-20.

A doubled 18-20 threat range is 16-20, not 15, and -basing this on the two-weapon rules- gaining another iterative attack would grant exactly one extra attack, not one attack with all weapons.

I think you may be wrong about the threat range, it's hard to visualize...  18-20 is a range of 3, double would be a range of 6, 15-20.
Totally right about the iterative attack, though, assuming it's the same as 3.5e.  I don't know Pathfinder yet ):