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[Putnam]

he does put on the most obnoxious fucking voice for the frank character though like wow

[Flying Dice]

True, so I suppose if you didn't get that it was a character... but people accepting things at face value? On my internet?

[SirQuiamus]

This

Watch the full version, too! Hideaki Anno makes a cameo!

(It's a shame I don't do drugs... Bob Ross got nothing on that shit.)

[Graknorke]

"Cringe" implies sympathy.

I guess I've been made cynical to that word based on the way that it's almost always used in a completely fucking vile manner on Reddit as a way to excuse bullying by saying "UH BUT IT'S JUST CRINGE DUDE"

Well it's for sympathetic embarrassment isn't it? Apparently it can be used for disgust but I don't think I've heard it used that way much.

[Frumple]

Well, as P noted th'main problem being had on their end is they spend time on reddit.

[Reelya]

True, so I suppose if you didn't get that it was a character... but people accepting things at face value? On my internet?

To cringe (english version, not reddit) is a shiver of disgust or embarassment. A basic reaction to anything really awkward to engage with.

You don't have to accept things at "face value" or believe it's not a "character" to cringe at something. Consider Mr Bean. Nobody is mistaking him for a real person. And while some skits can be great to watch, the "cringe factor" is the big comedic selling point. So much that it skirts the edge between being funny and just being cringeworthy if it goes on too long. look at the full length Mr Bean movie they made in America. Put into that context, it's just cringe and not funny.

[i2amroy]

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/03/how-memes-are-orchestrated-by-the-man/274466/

I'm not sure I agree with the connotations of everything there. I mean sure, I'll give them that that particular meme was definitely company driven. But I can think of many, many more examples where companies try to push a meme only for it to fall flat, or for memes to be created that have absolutely nothing to do with companies. I'd say that they definitely have a better shots at pulling one off successfully than the average person due to their ability to push something out on more channels at once, but I wouldn't say that they have anything near a stranglehold on meme generation or popularizing.

[Orange Wizard]

Consider Mr Bean. Too much of that can definitely get cringeworthy, look at the full length Mr Bean movie they made in America.

The Mr. Bean movie was made in America? Huh.

I guess that explains why I didn't think it was anywhere near as good as the original show.

[Sergarr]

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/03/how-memes-are-orchestrated-by-the-man/274466/

I'm not sure I agree with the connotations of everything there. I mean sure, I'll give them that that particular meme was definitely company driven. But I can think of many, many more examples where companies try to push a meme only for it to fall flat, or for memes to be created that have absolutely nothing to do with companies. I'd say that they definitely have a better shots at pulling one off successfully than the average person due to their ability to push something out on more channels at once, but I wouldn't say that they have anything near a stranglehold on meme generation or popularizing.

I'd personally say that "pushing" the meme is definitely the wrong approach for making it popular.

Except for the case where you exploit the reverse psychology. Then it's actually possible. You just need to first create it, push for deleting it everywhere you can reach and make sure that the news about how "you don't like this meme and want to delete it from the Internet" will hit the relevant social circles. The nearly-guaranteed Internet backlash will ensure its popularity.

[Graknorke]

So much that it skirts the edge between being funny and just being cringeworthy if it goes on too long. look at the full length Mr Bean movie they made in America. Put into that context, it's just cringe and not funny.

But that film just isn't funny. Meanwhile the cinematic masterpiece, 'Mr Bean's Holiday' manages to be legitimately good the entire way through. And it is still a full length film about Mr Bean.
Checkmate, atheists.

[Reelya]

Consider Mr Bean. Too much of that can definitely get cringeworthy, look at the full length Mr Bean movie they made in America.

The Mr. Bean movie was made in America? Huh.

I guess that explains why I didn't think it was anywhere near as good as the original show.

There are at least two Mr Bean movies. The first one is set in America, and combines a really bad American action/comedy film with Mr Bean skits. It is the worst one. It's like two separate movies crammed together, with really bad acting a plot, low budget American low-brow humor, and then Mr Bean being cringeworthy on the edges.

[Dutchling]

Oh man, for a moment I thought guys were badmouthing Mr Bean's Holiday.

That movie is a national treasure of whatever country produced it >.>

[Reelya]

I liked Mr Bean's Holiday. I'm really glad about that because the Mr Bean movie they made first almost scared me off watching Holiday. But I figured, it couldn't literally be any worse than the American one.

[Dutchling]

Isn't that the one with the painting? I remember watching that and thinking it was okay.

I may or may not have watched it a second time later on

[Reelya]

The sketch with the painting was the only good bit. And the thing about that sketch was it was one of the few segments in the film which was just Mr Bean by himself doing Bean-like things. Notice that none of the other characters are in that scene and it's the normal Bean visual comedy routine. I think the issue is that it was trying to break him into the American market by putting him in an American-style action/comedy film. But it was a bad film in almost every way, bar one or two visual comedy routines from Rowan Atkinson.

For Mr Bean's Holiday, they rightly focus on Mr Bean 99% of the time, not 1% of the time. You have that genius visual comedy guy up there, why waste him in a dialogue-heavy movie that takes focus off him?

And the "trying to appeal to Americans" thing might be justified, because I can find a number of American reviews of the dreadful Mr Bean movie claiming it's far superior to "Mr Bean's Holiday". Yeah, so they just don't get the surrealist visual humor.