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[Worldmaster27]

Nazi snipers? Mines? Machine guns? Artillery?

All that can take them out, and if it's a Nuke+ explosion then the entire unit would be wiped out, no?

[ArchAIngel]

Do the Nazis have MechaHitler, stupid jetpacks, and the Flammenwerfer?

Nope.  Good old fashioned superiority complexes and efficiency.  Maybe the flamethrower.

Human preparation beats magic.  Which is interesting because magic is the fantasy equivalent of preparation, if I remember D&D rules correctly.

*snorts* The fight was between Nazi Germany and freaking NIRN. The Redguards alone stomp. They have 100 man units of blademasters. Who, for reference, are each good enough with a blade to cause Nuke+ explosions with each strike.

Oh god, I forgot about the sword move so awesome it can SPLIT ATOMS. Although that is exactly as horrible an idea as it sounds, since you have to be right next to the nuclear explosion.

Even better, they survive that move regularly. That says volumes about their durability.

Nazi snipers? Mines? Machine guns? Artillery?

All that can take them out, and if it's a Nuke+ explosion then the entire unit would be wiped out, no?

Nope. They survive the explosions. Given Nuke+ explosions are surviveable, I doubt snipers and suchlike do shit. Think of it as a unit of Raiden's. That should help.

[Frumple]

Oh god, I forgot about the sword move so awesome it can SPLIT ATOMS. Although that is exactly as horrible an idea as it sounds, since you have to be right next to the nuclear explosion.

And that's why Sol Invictus invented dodge charms.

Note: I don't actually know if the Exalted Sun invented dodge charms, but whatever.

Creation vs NIRN would probably be pretty interesting. Something for the crossover thread, methinks. Could throw in the Nazis but at that point outmatched isn't even the right word for it, because that implies they're somehow operating on the same scale of reference.

E: Snipers and tanks can't really do much against things that can retroactively delete hitler's existence, honestly.

[pisskop]

So are fantasy humans human or something more?

Id settle for a compromise between the two, but it doesnt fit to continue to devalue modern machinery just because they're so OP irl.  Swords are obsolete.


Good luck getting into range, Redguard.  Methinks the kitty would outperform you, guerrilla-style.

[Putnam]

Oh god, I forgot about the sword move so awesome it can SPLIT ATOMS. Although that is exactly as horrible an idea as it sounds, since you have to be right next to the nuclear explosion.

The knowledge of that was lost when Yokuda blew up due to some idiot using it. It was only used once.

Cyrus the Restless later used it on Vivec, but Talos looked at that and went "nah, that didn't happen" so it didn't and now it's lost forever.

They most certainly do not survive the explosions. It's explicitly a suicide technique.

Nazi snipers? Mines? Machine guns? Artillery?

All that can take them out, and if it's a Nuke+ explosion then the entire unit would be wiped out, no?

You're forgetting Numidium, which is a reality-nuke on a larger scale than the Nazis ever dreamed of.

[ArchAIngel]

So are fantasy humans human or something more?

Yes.

[Baffler]

Nazi snipers? Mines? Machine guns? Artillery?

All that can take them out, and if it's a Nuke+ explosion then the entire unit would be wiped out, no?

This. They'll be blown to too many bits for Kagrenac himself to put back together before they're within striking distance.

Oh god, I forgot about the sword move so awesome it can SPLIT ATOMS. Although that is exactly as horrible an idea as it sounds, since you have to be right next to the nuclear explosion.

And that's why Sol Invictus invented dodge charms.

Note: I don't actually know if the Exalted Sun invented dodge charms, but whatever.

Creation vs NIRN would probably be pretty interesting. Something for the crossover thread, methinks. Could throw in the Nazis but at that point outmatched isn't even the right word for it, because that implies they're somehow operating on the same scale of reference.

E: Snipers and tanks can't really do much against things that can retroactively delete hitler's existence, honestly.

Handwavey retcon devices Metaverse fuckery that ends the conflict in Nirn's favor centuries before it would have begun would have to be excluded, of course.

[ArchAIngel]

Nazi snipers? Mines? Machine guns? Artillery?

All that can take them out, and if it's a Nuke+ explosion then the entire unit would be wiped out, no?

This. They'll be blown to too many bits for Kagrenac himself to put back together before they're within striking distance.

Oh god, I forgot about the sword move so awesome it can SPLIT ATOMS. Although that is exactly as horrible an idea as it sounds, since you have to be right next to the nuclear explosion.

And that's why Sol Invictus invented dodge charms.

Note: I don't actually know if the Exalted Sun invented dodge charms, but whatever.

Creation vs NIRN would probably be pretty interesting. Something for the crossover thread, methinks. Could throw in the Nazis but at that point outmatched isn't even the right word for it, because that implies they're somehow operating on the same scale of reference.

E: Snipers and tanks can't really do much against things that can retroactively delete hitler's existence, honestly.

Handwavey retcon devices Metaverse fuckery that ends the conflict in Nirn's favor would have to be excluded, of course.

Well, in that case of course they lose. You just got rid of Wizards, and all the various heroes the universe tends to pop up. Like the guy who stole starlight. And the Thu'um, which is yelling at reality to make it do what you want.

[Sergarr]

Nazi snipers? Mines? Machine guns? Artillery?

All that can take them out, and if it's a Nuke+ explosion then the entire unit would be wiped out, no?

This. They'll be blown to too many bits for Kagrenac himself to put back together before they're within striking distance.

Invisibility spells + Legions of mages = Invisible armies.

[Frumple]

... maybe? Maybe not. I mean, that would be more or less what the siddies work with anyway, so... it's not like Exalted probably couldn't deal with metatextual reality dickery. Punching time to death or whatev' is pretty in line with both Elder Scrolls and Exalted.

[Baffler]

Nazi snipers? Mines? Machine guns? Artillery?

All that can take them out, and if it's a Nuke+ explosion then the entire unit would be wiped out, no?

This. They'll be blown to too many bits for Kagrenac himself to put back together before they're within striking distance.

Invisibility spells + Legions of mages = Invisible armies.

Unless they're weightless armies too, they'll still get blown up by minefields.

Well, in that case of course they lose. You just got rid of Wizards, and all the various heroes the universe tends to pop up. Like the guy who stole starlight. And the Thu'um, which is yelling at reality to make it do what you want.

Edited for clarity. I meant things like some Daedric prince deciding Cyrodill should be forested hills instead of jungle, or this:

Cyrus the Restless later used it on Vivec, but Talos looked at that and went "nah, that didn't happen" so it didn't and now it's lost forever.

that really defeat the point of the whole exercise, since Nirn would effectively be able to savescum their way to victory.

[ArchAIngel]

Nazi snipers? Mines? Machine guns? Artillery?

All that can take them out, and if it's a Nuke+ explosion then the entire unit would be wiped out, no?

This. They'll be blown to too many bits for Kagrenac himself to put back together before they're within striking distance.

Invisibility spells + Legions of mages = Invisible armies.

Unless they're weightless armies too, they'll still get blown up by minefields.

Well, in that case of course they lose. You just got rid of Wizards, and all the various heroes the universe tends to pop up. Like the guy who stole starlight. And the Thu'um, which is yelling at reality to make it do what you want.

Edited for clarity. I meant things like some Daedric prince deciding Cyrodill should be forested hills instead of jungle, or this:

Cyrus the Restless later used it on Vivec, but Talos looked at that and went "nah, that didn't happen" so it didn't and now it's lost forever.

that really defeat the point of the whole exercise, since Nirn would effectively be able to savescum their way to victory.

Then since reality-fuckery is allowed now, a thief steals the concept of Nazi. Job done, no more Nazi's. And the savescumming thing is pretty canon.

[Sergarr]

This thread needs more Putnam. He's a Master with a solid 8 in Elder Scrolls Lore.

[TD1]

If there were a way to quote this entire thread, I would do so and post it here.

[Bauglir]

If there were a way to quote this entire thread, I would do so and post it here.

I feel like the optimal way to do this would be with a link to a webpage that consists of what appears to be a link to the OP, except that each character is a link to a page that does the same thing with the first 1/X posts in the thread, until you reach a base case where there are X posts to the page, in which case each character is a link to a post, where X is the number of characters in the link to the OP.

Sort of a recursive omnilink that would be entirely useless since the posts are already sorted.