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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #64260 on: November 29, 2014, 01:05:15 pm »

What the fuck is 'slaughtering' in this context as a separate thing to butchery?
Killing the animal is in the exact same process as butchering it.
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« Reply #64261 on: November 29, 2014, 01:10:08 pm »

Not in DF. In DF, butchering refers to pre-killed things like hunted wild animals, but slaughtering refers to tamed animals. Butchery is time-consuming and slaughter is instant. Both produce edible/cookable parts.
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« Reply #64262 on: November 29, 2014, 01:20:43 pm »

Not in DF. In DF, butchering refers to pre-killed things like hunted wild animals, but slaughtering refers to tamed animals. Butchery is time-consuming and slaughter is instant. Both produce edible/cookable parts.
But it's the same thing that happens. Same workshop, same skill used, same output (given same input), and in general is the same thing.
The slaughtering tame animals being instant isn't something I'd thought about, but given that the time is dependant on body size it could well be abstracted as having to position a corpse in a butchering position, as opposed to being able to lead a live animal over to where it needs to be under its own power.

I'm not seeing why it would need a separate skill. At all.
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« Reply #64263 on: November 29, 2014, 01:34:35 pm »

The issue at stake is that slaughter is instant, I believe. I agree that it doesn't need a new skill, but it does need to meaningfully use the associated one.
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« Reply #64264 on: November 29, 2014, 01:42:01 pm »

Not in DF. In DF, butchering refers to pre-killed things like hunted wild animals, but slaughtering refers to tamed animals. Butchery is time-consuming and slaughter is instant. Both produce edible/cookable parts.
But it's the same thing that happens. Same workshop, same skill used, same output (given same input), and in general is the same thing.
The slaughtering tame animals being instant isn't something I'd thought about, but given that the time is dependant on body size it could well be abstracted as having to position a corpse in a butchering position, as opposed to being able to lead a live animal over to where it needs to be under its own power.

I'm not seeing why it would need a separate skill. At all.
I could say the same about gelding. Or potash making.

A lot of skills in general should probably get cobbled together, to prevent further clutter.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #64265 on: November 29, 2014, 01:46:33 pm »

What kind of emoticon is this?

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A friend just sent me it, but I have no idea what it is supposed to be.
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« Reply #64266 on: November 29, 2014, 01:50:08 pm »

This is a poorly-crafted engraving of a nose and two eyes. The eyes are protruding.

I have no idea. Something about looking?
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #64267 on: November 29, 2014, 01:54:46 pm »

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« Reply #64268 on: November 29, 2014, 01:59:12 pm »

That was my first thought as well.

Ask your friend! Also if my phone can do those upside-down question marks, that's my new go-to emoticon for confusing people.
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« Reply #64269 on: November 29, 2014, 02:37:53 pm »

I could say the same about gelding. Or potash making.

A lot of skills in general should probably get cobbled together, to prevent further clutter.
That is indeed true.
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« Reply #64270 on: November 29, 2014, 05:27:05 pm »

Plus, it's a different job. Saying they're the same is about the same as saying that shearing, web collection and strand extraction are the same because they all give you string.

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« Reply #64271 on: November 29, 2014, 05:31:41 pm »

But see each skill in DF is simultaneously a profession, and there's no such thing as a "professional gelder" in the world. All people who do that also usually do something else. Like gelding could get lumped with other animal caretaking skills to form an Animal Caretaker profession.
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« Reply #64272 on: November 29, 2014, 05:34:17 pm »

Slaughtering, I meant.

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« Reply #64273 on: November 29, 2014, 05:39:34 pm »

Well, it was hard to infer what post you were referring to, since you didn't quote.

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« Reply #64274 on: November 29, 2014, 05:57:52 pm »

But see each skill in DF is simultaneously a profession, and there's no such thing as a "professional gelder" in the world. All people who do that also usually do something else. Like gelding could get lumped with other animal caretaking skills to form an Animal Caretaker profession.
I dunno, I've talked to some gelder's unions.
They were pretty snippy.
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