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[Arx]

Avatar (the film with the blue people, not the series) is currently the world's highest-grossing film. I did not think it was considered that good.

[Xantalos]

Avatar (the film with the blue people, not the series) is currently the world's highest-grossing film. I did not think it was considered that good.

It was one of the first films in the world to have FX on that level. They're still pretty fantastic.
That was pretty much the point of the movie.

[Arx]

That was pretty much the point of the movie.

And the sixteen truckloads of themes I have to pick apart for one of the strangest biology assignments I've ever been given. The FX might be the most successful/famous part of the movie, though.

[Xantalos]

Biology? Themes?
SCHOOL SYSTEM YU STUP COMBINENG ENGRISH AN BILILIGY

Sorry about that, my reflex triggered.

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

That was pretty much the point of the movie.

And the sixteen truckloads of themes I have to pick apart for one of the strangest biology assignments I've ever been given. The FX might be the most successful/famous part of the movie, though.

Wait, so the movies graphics are considered the best part of the movie and most responsible for its massive sales?
*looks at PS vita and DS sales*
*checks out wii sales compared to the other consoles*
Huh.

[LordSlowpoke]

you do realize people latched onto graphics over gameplay somewhere after the nes era and never let go

could probably get away with a movie calling for genocide if it was pretty

[Yoink]

I quite enjoyed the movie, myself. I had a clever point I was gonna make about the film industry and FX but it slipped from my mind as I struggled to type this on my phone. Gods I'm tired.

[Mech#4]

I do remember when I went to see "Avatar", the main advertised reason was the effects rather than the storyline. I did enjoy the movie for the spectacle, and the plot was one I haven't seen much myself. I can't remember whether I saw a 3D version or not.

I would suggest it's because it is easier to grade graphical improvement over other elements. "GTAIV" has better graphics than "Commander Keen" is nearly a statement. However, I do think at the moment we're seeing, with the stalling of major graphical improvements, more games exploring different graphical styles that best suit their intentions. "Rayman: Origins" is a 2D platformer which makes good use of higher detail while retaining 2D simplicity.

S'like, adventure games didn't really work with the advent of 3D (Like "Escape from Monkey Island") but other adventure games have been made using older styles and been received well (Chzo Mythos).

[Reelya]

you do realize people latched onto graphics over gameplay somewhere after the nes era and never let go

could probably get away with a movie calling for genocide if it was pretty

What? When didn't people latch onto graphics over gameplay? It's been like that since day 1 of video games. Shit games sell because of eye candy. Back in the day, we talked about how maybe, in the "future" game graphics would get good enough that gameplay would get a lift instead of the graphics wars. It hasn't really happened yet. This was when I was a little kid in the 1980's. They've just found newer and newer ways to market shit all over again.

Even in the 80's there was the graphics vs gameplay wars, and it was something people lamented about as a pox on good gaming. It didn't just happen after SNES, there was no magical time when the average consumers were like "now that's gameplay, screw graphics". There's always been the crud, and it has always sold well.

The ones that played solidly are the ones that are remembered, but that's no different to e.g. music. There's plenty of really craptastic 1960's music, but people look back at the classics like they were all that existed, and the shit / chart filler is forgotten.

[LordSlowpoke]

...they didn't latch on when there wasn't any graphics to really latch on to?

i don't think i went too far saying that it's during the third gen and after that graphics became advanced enough to be an actual selling point

late second would be as early as i'd go

e: wow you edited that in okay

chalk it up to me being distracted for a while

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

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No, I'm talking about the wii and DS sales compared to their competitors, look at those sales, and we can all agree here that The DS and the wii look like shit compared to their counterparts.

AND ANOTHER THING, THERE IS A CLEAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SHIT LOOKING GOOD, AND SHIT LOOKING NICE, CLEAR DIFFERENCE.

With that aside, look at the sales of the ps3 and xbox 360 compared to their spawn, if people did care about graphics so much, why haven't everybody thrown those ancestors of game consoles out? By now, those new sales should be toppling that of the ps3 and xbox360, yet that's not the case, why is this?
Also, those games that look good are not selling like hot cakes because of people bursting from head to toe at dos awsome graphiks dud, it's because of their continuing popularity when they first gained a following, the graphics shit is simply something the games company latched onto when they found good sales, tomb raider failed, resident evil failed dead space 3 failed both because of the fact people ain't looking at graphics and because the numbers those games were supposed to reach were absurd.

DARK SOULS DIDNT FAIL, AND IT LOOKED LIKE SHIT CRUDLY GLOSSED OVER BY ABSURD MOTION BLUR, BUT STILL GAINED A BLOODY RABID FAN FOLLOWING NEVERTHELESS, SO DONT GIVE ME THAT BULLSHIT ABOUT PEOPLE JUST GOING FOR GRAPHICS, OTHERWISE EVERYONE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE PS VITA, OR THE PS3, OR THE XBONE, BUT. THEY. HAVENT.

Excuse me, knee jerk reaction when people are exclusified as the average customer being the dumb ones.

OMFGcata Said it at some point on a podcast, 'I hated final fantasy 13-2, but I guess I'll keep buying it just because... You know.' Mostly because there were good games In the franchise.

I dunno, I'm not an expert.

[miauw62]

The sales of the PS4 and xbone haven't become huge yet because the consoles are still expensive and far from everyone has one, a lot of people are probably waiting for them to become cheaper.

And don't tell me your average console gamer knows about dark souls. There's a difference between a cult following and widespread commercial succes

[EnigmaticHat]

MOBAs, MMOs, and mobile games all have their own big slices of the market, for example a quick Google search says that 67 million people play LoL monthly, while the PS3 sold 80 million units total as of 2013.  And lets be honest, LoL looks like an RTS from a good long time ago.  So not great.

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

Of course, the massive price could be from needing the power for all those graphics, so the sales are still low because of the fake need for graphics.

[miauw62]

Making a "next-gen" console that is less powerful than it's predecessor makes no sense.
They're expensive because they're new, mostly.