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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #31110 on: April 27, 2013, 01:13:01 am »

Is this the same roommate who warranted semi-daily posts in the RAAAGE thread? The one that you hated and couldn't wait to get away from?
Yes, the same. I think this is one of the heralds of the end times.
*checks*
Maybe.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #31111 on: April 27, 2013, 01:15:20 am »

Is this the same roommate who warranted semi-daily posts in the RAAAGE thread? The one that you hated and couldn't wait to get away from?
Yes, the same. I think this is one of the heralds of the end times.
First averted-shaving-cream-death, now video-game-electric-guitar-remixes. Hopefully you're rubbing off on him, and not the other way around...
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #31112 on: April 27, 2013, 01:24:35 am »

It's kind of a weird tradition, to own a gun just incase the government fucks up to bad.
Back from when the army was just a bunch of dudes with guns.
You have to remember that when the country was set up, there were very few republics that had succeeded on a large scale without going bad. The Roman republic grew into an oppressive empire, they had just fought a war against Britain, which is where their tradition of representative government came from, because they felt stepped on, and most of the handful of other attempts at republicanism had devolved into anarchy or resulted in prosperous nations that fell to the first conqueror to come sniffing around. Giving individuals a check against the government, and a defense against foreign foes that didn't depend on a corruptible beauracracy, made excellent sense at the time, particularly since there was still an omnipresent war, on a small scale, with the Indian tribes to the west of the new nation, particularly when Britain wanted to give them a distraction.

In a very real sense, both concerns were vindicated by history. Just not in the US. Scores of idealistic revolutionary governments have gone bad, and had to be overthrown by the very people that put them in power, and the actions of United States Forces In Phillippenes, the French and Polish (I'm including the partisans from the western parts of the Soviet states in this as well) resistances, and the People's Liberation Army during WWII prove the amount of damage that can be done by a mostly-civilian force with light weapons to an invader. The Polish and other Eastern European partisans have been credited by some historians as winning the war on the Eastern front. Not sure I'd go that far, but the fact that it's even a plausible argument speaks volumes.

Though, there's that pesky bit before the comma that all the "right to bear arms" people leave off:

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A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

As far as I can make out, you can't just drop the first half of the sentence and go "guns for everybody! Woohoo!". Funny how everyone forgets the first "well regulated militia" bit. As far as I can make out, this gives the individual states the right to regulate weapons as much as they want (since this is the federal constitution) - but state laws override federal gun laws (you could still have federal laws but they have to be ratified by the states).

Clearly in the above excerpt from the constitution, the "well regulated militia" is listed as the end goal, whereas the "right to bear arms" is listed as the means to that end. So we can go off what's clearly intended (well regulated state militias), or we can chop stuff out of context to get a personal agenda (every man and his dog with a small arsenal).
« Last Edit: April 27, 2013, 01:27:23 am by Reelya »
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #31113 on: April 27, 2013, 01:28:53 am »

Is this the same roommate who warranted semi-daily posts in the RAAAGE thread? The one that you hated and couldn't wait to get away from?
Yes, the same. I think this is one of the heralds of the end times.
First averted-shaving-cream-death, now video-game-electric-guitar-remixes. Hopefully you're rubbing off on him, and not the other way around...
He's got a good side to him, and it feels weird saying that even though it's true. He does a lot of stuff to keep his public image up as a party hard guy, but that isn't too strong when it is just us sitting in the dorm at night. I get the impression that he's almost got a knee-jerk shame towards things that don't keep up the image. He thinks his band would mock him if they knew he was doing renditions of video game music, and said "I guess it doesn't make me too much of a loser since I didn't spend all that much time on it". He said it light-heartedly, but it makes me wonder.

At this point things have gone from Initial Dislike (September) -> HATE (The Incident) -> Hate (August-November) -> Hate (Cuban Alarm Clock Crisis) -> Apathy (December-January) -> Simultaneous Hate/Like (Febuary-March) -> Friendly? (April)
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #31114 on: April 27, 2013, 03:10:06 am »

Huh. Quite a few spambots tonight.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #31115 on: April 27, 2013, 03:16:57 am »

Huh. Quite a few spambots tonight.
Somewhat disspaointed I was when it wasn't an advertisement for pieces of Pandora's Box.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #31116 on: April 27, 2013, 06:30:33 am »

So a friend and I watched Neon Genesis Evangelion from start to finish over the past two days.
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D.P Jor: the actual end
D.P Jor: I reccomend changing to that
NobodyPro: k
NobodyPro: on your mark
D.P Jor: there is a reason they had to make a movie to compensate for the ending
D.P Jor: 40 minutes of introspection do not make good television
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NobodyPro: OH SHIT SON
NobodyPro: GREAT GOOGLY MOOGLY
NobodyPro: WAT
...(later)...
NobodyPro: this music...
NobodyPro: FUCK
NobodyPro: My Mind has been fucked
NobodyPro: and back
NobodyPro: mmm
NobodyPro: [edited for spoilers]
NobodyPro: CKCKCKCKCK
NobodyPro: what
NobodyPro: the
NobodyPro: actual
NobodyPro: fuck
NobodyPro: i need to unfuck my mind
D.P Jor: death fixes everything
NobodyPro: the ride never ends
NobodyPro: the hunt consumes all
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #31117 on: April 27, 2013, 06:50:11 am »

Sounds more like a case of being an introvert with some self-confidence issues.

Like MSH said, don't worry unless your symptoms are extreme.
Just curious, but definition of "extreme"?
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #31119 on: April 27, 2013, 11:52:22 am »

People standing in the living room doorway murders my internet connection :S
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #31120 on: April 27, 2013, 11:57:41 am »

When I woke up I saw an injury on my knuckle that I had gotten from punching my wall, but had healed. Now it's gone again.

I'm thinking my dream perception may have leaked a bit.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #31121 on: April 27, 2013, 12:25:45 pm »

When I woke up I saw an injury on my knuckle that I had gotten from punching my wall, but had healed. Now it's gone again.

I'm thinking my dream perception may have leaked a bit.
Or you're dreaming that you're awake.

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #31122 on: April 27, 2013, 12:39:27 pm »

When I woke up I saw an injury on my knuckle that I had gotten from punching my wall, but had healed. Now it's gone again.

I'm thinking my dream perception may have leaked a bit.
Or you're dreaming that you're awake.
Actually we are dream ghosts.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #31123 on: April 27, 2013, 12:46:47 pm »

It's kind of a weird tradition, to own a gun just incase the government fucks up to bad.
Back from when the army was just a bunch of dudes with guns.
You have to remember that when the country was set up, there were very few republics that had succeeded on a large scale without going bad. The Roman republic grew into an oppressive empire, they had just fought a war against Britain, which is where their tradition of representative government came from, because they felt stepped on, and most of the handful of other attempts at republicanism had devolved into anarchy or resulted in prosperous nations that fell to the first conqueror to come sniffing around. Giving individuals a check against the government, and a defense against foreign foes that didn't depend on a corruptible beauracracy, made excellent sense at the time, particularly since there was still an omnipresent war, on a small scale, with the Indian tribes to the west of the new nation, particularly when Britain wanted to give them a distraction.

In a very real sense, both concerns were vindicated by history. Just not in the US. Scores of idealistic revolutionary governments have gone bad, and had to be overthrown by the very people that put them in power, and the actions of United States Forces In Phillippenes, the French and Polish (I'm including the partisans from the western parts of the Soviet states in this as well) resistances, and the People's Liberation Army during WWII prove the amount of damage that can be done by a mostly-civilian force with light weapons to an invader. The Polish and other Eastern European partisans have been credited by some historians as winning the war on the Eastern front. Not sure I'd go that far, but the fact that it's even a plausible argument speaks volumes.

Though, there's that pesky bit before the comma that all the "right to bear arms" people leave off:

Quote
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

As far as I can make out, you can't just drop the first half of the sentence and go "guns for everybody! Woohoo!". Funny how everyone forgets the first "well regulated militia" bit. As far as I can make out, this gives the individual states the right to regulate weapons as much as they want (since this is the federal constitution) - but state laws override federal gun laws (you could still have federal laws but they have to be ratified by the states).

Clearly in the above excerpt from the constitution, the "well regulated militia" is listed as the end goal, whereas the "right to bear arms" is listed as the means to that end. So we can go off what's clearly intended (well regulated state militias), or we can chop stuff out of context to get a personal agenda (every man and his dog with a small arsenal).
In 1787, "militia" meant "any party of citizens that bear arms in defense of their country who provide their own weapons and train on their own time"  not "A armed force raised by the state instead of the federal goverment, that defaults to federal control in time of war", which is the more modern meaning. In other words, if four brothers with muskets showed up at a government fort during an Indian incursion, they were a "well regulated militia." Note that the word "state" does not appear in the text of the Constitution, and even gun-control advocates didn't attempt that logic until the middle of the 20th century.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #31124 on: April 27, 2013, 03:09:35 pm »

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