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[Graknorke]

Ehn. It's been annoying when I've tried it so far, and it does involve more maintenance/greater mess. The price differential irks, though, yeah.

How can you get grating cheese that wrong that you're creating a significant amount of mess? Are you trying to grate the cheese as if you're knapping a piece of flint or something?

On topic with the thread, I think I just created my favourite mental image of the day.

[LordSlowpoke]

Are you trying to grate the cheese as if you're knapping a piece of flint or something?

let it be known that the next time i am to grate cheese this method will be thoroughly examined

[Frumple]

Where did I say significant? It's still not bad, per se, just more thereof. A nuisance, not a hygiene issue

And there's still keeping the grater itself in good order. More effort, bleh.

... probably not enough to justify the price difference, but... still.

[pisskop]

I'm wtfing all over the place.

I agree with her sentiment, but trying to express it in only 30 seconds left her open to lots of misinterpretation.  "THEY'RE SAYING OUR CHILDREN BELONG TO THE STATE" is an incredibly reactionary example.

Essentially what she's saying has nothing to do with undermining parenting rights.  It's criticizing people who reject the notion of having any responsibility for other people's children.  One of the most pertinent examples is there are a surprising number of people today who believe education should receive tax funding.  The argument goes that not everyone who pays taxes has children, so their money is being spent on something that doesn't benefit them and that's wrong.  The counter is that you still have to live on the same planet as those children, so it's in your best interest for them to grow up to be competent and well-adjusted adults.  That's just one example that is heavily debated these days.  The fact is parents and their children need a lot of support.  Parents require more money and time away from work than non-parents to properly raise their kids, and kids need good schools and various other programs.  This stuff comes from the community, which is why people need to see children as everyone's responsibility and not just the parents.

Very well stated.

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However, the way it is worded bothers many, and in this instance, me.  I agree that as a community we must promote familty atmosphere, that the decline of the nuclear family was in part due to the removal of such an interest, the over-emphasis of personal experience over communal well-being, but the wording implies others should have a definitive say in family matters.

I think people are worried about the others dictating their children, or that children are going to simply be residents in your home and little else.  The community supporting children through the restraint of inappropriate action is one thing, and support of public school reformation is good.  Its been argued however that we outspend almost every major nation in school spending, and our scores are significantly lower. I'd support change in school before extra money being lent to do more of what we have now.

We have never invested as much in public education as we should have because we’ve always had a private notion of children, your kid is yours and totally your responsibility. We haven’t had a very collective notion of these are our children.
So part of it is we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families and recognize that kids belong to whole communities.
 Once it’s everybody’s responsibility and not just the household’s we start making better investments.

The bold is what I take most offense to.  perhaps given more time she'd explain it more precisely. . .

[Flying Dice]

Personally when I grate cheese I do so as if I were playing a fiddle.

[Frumple]

... so does the cheese block or the grater go in the crook of your neck?

[FearfulJesuit]

The BBC made this mistake this morning:



Woops.

[Pnx]

I... It took me a little while to spot the typo, do you suppose someone did it on purpose?

[Dutchling]

Typo? I thought the live footage of Thatcher thing was the mistake.

[pisskop]

strike?
stroke.

lulz

[JoshuaFH]

I really hate it when I don't get the latest XKCD strip.

[Graknorke]

I... It took me a little while to spot the typo, do you suppose someone did it on purpose?

I think it might have been.
On the news this morning the newsreader said it something like three times, over the course of around ten minutes. He either was reading it off a script and didn't notice, or thought it was hilarious and kept going with it.

[Rose]

Well it's not as if thatcher is immensely popular there.

[Graknorke]

Well it's not as if thatcher is immensely popular there.

According to the news everybody loves her.
Also apparently my parents think she was pretty great. I don't think I'll talk to them about politics anymore.

[Neonivek]

Where did I say significant? It's still not bad, per se, just more thereof. A nuisance, not a hygiene issue

And there's still keeping the grater itself in good order. More effort, bleh.

... probably not enough to justify the price difference, but... still.

The issue is that if you want to Grate cheese there is no automatic cheese grater that does a sufficient job.

Admittingly if you just want a LITTLE cheese it is fine... if you want to top nachos then you have to do it by hand.