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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #28350 on: March 06, 2013, 12:41:20 pm »

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« Reply #28351 on: March 06, 2013, 12:43:34 pm »

Alien Trilogy is only really bad in its collision mechanic - you can aim up and down, but will kill shorter enemies by shooting over them - most signifigantly, facehuggers. It also suffers from being far too easy until the last third, then is far, far too hard. The weapons are very limited, though the shotgun and pulse rifle are both fun. The flamethrower was a big let down. Panzer Dragoon is an ok "on rails shooter" that gets all too easy and boring when you work out the homing shot mechanic, which IIRC wasnt even mentioned in the manual. Clockwork Knight? Well, the tweeness spolied it for me. There was probably a decent platform game in there trying to get out from behind a ridicoulous premise.

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« Reply #28352 on: March 06, 2013, 01:17:56 pm »

The best ever example I've seen of the Prisoners dilemma worked like this:

Two people have "won" $50,000. They then have to sit down, converse, and secretly submit whether they want to cooperate or betray. If you both cooperate, you each get $25k. If one of you betrays, he gets the whole thing. Usually, no matter what you plan to do, you want to convince the other person to cooperate, because if you both betray, neither of you get anything (for psychological reasons, this is still the Prisoner's Dilemma - there is inherent value in insuring the other person gets nothing for betraying you. But it made it more likely for people to pick cooperate)

These two people sit down. One of them opens up the conversation by being very straightforward.
"I am going to betray you."
The other person is taken aback. Asks wtf he was doing.
"I am going to betray you. It's pretty simple. There's nothing you can do to change the outcome of my vote. But there is this - if you cooperate, I will give you half the winnings after the show. This guarantees that you can't betray me. You still have your choice - whether to trust me or not - but mine is simple. There is no better situation for me than betraying. So I am 100% absolutely positively going to betray you. Saying this is my gesture of trust - I am honest. I am being 100% honest with you right now, and am going to give you the other half if you choose to cooperate. I am not playing deceptively, but I am not going to play the game in a way where I'm going to lose, so I am going to betray."
Everyone is riveted, the host too. The other guy says "So my only chance is to cooperate and hope you give me half?"
"Yes."

No one can believe this. In a great many iterations, no one had ever taken the stance that they were DEFINITELY going to betray.

They submit their votes... and both players have submitted "cooperate". Turns out the guy wasn't being truthful at all. But it's probably the best lie I've ever seen.

Man, I wish I could remember the name of the show...
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« Reply #28353 on: March 06, 2013, 01:22:25 pm »

Alien Trilogy is only really bad in its collision mechanic - you can aim up and down, but will kill shorter enemies by shooting over them - most signifigantly, facehuggers. It also suffers from being far too easy until the last third, then is far, far too hard. The weapons are very limited, though the shotgun and pulse rifle are both fun. The flamethrower was a big let down. Panzer Dragoon is an ok "on rails shooter" that gets all too easy and boring when you work out the homing shot mechanic, which IIRC wasnt even mentioned in the manual. Clockwork Knight? Well, the tweeness spolied it for me. There was probably a decent platform game in there trying to get out from behind a ridicoulous premise.

I find that games that are considered too easy can be usually sorted if you just turn up the difficulty to the maximum. That's how I made doom actually playable otherwise it would just be a cakewalk. Granted, it will make life harder for you when you deal with the hard levels but then if you complete it, you are a legendary soldier. Big Boss, yo.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #28354 on: March 06, 2013, 01:38:36 pm »

Kind of in need of money. Work is swamped and willing to shovel out OT. Now that I'm seperated, I don't have a lot to do in the evenings.

Cue me designing a schedule for myself which (if approved) will net 48 hours OT in a two-week period. Can just about double my paycheck, if I don't mind the whole "please dear god kill me" aspect by the end of it. But at the end of said hell, I'll have a weekend away with my love, so I think it's doable.

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« Reply #28355 on: March 06, 2013, 02:07:42 pm »

The Pirate Bay move to Korea was a Hoax, apparently
So... they were just testing their user base?
Its more likely they were waiting to see what the anti-pirates' reaction was.
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« Reply #28356 on: March 06, 2013, 02:18:30 pm »

^^^Funny story, it was more directed at North Korea than TPB^^^
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« Reply #28357 on: March 06, 2013, 02:20:25 pm »

^^^Funny story, it was more directed at North Korea than TPB^^^
The Pirate Bay move to Korea was a Hoax, apparently
So... they were just testing their user base?
Its more likely they were waiting to see what the anti-pirates' reaction was.
Regardless, it's interesting fallout.

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #28358 on: March 06, 2013, 03:59:16 pm »

The best ever example I've seen of the Prisoners dilemma worked like this:

Two people have "won" $50,000. They then have to sit down, converse, and secretly submit whether they want to cooperate or betray. If you both cooperate, you each get $25k. If one of you betrays, he gets the whole thing. Usually, no matter what you plan to do, you want to convince the other person to cooperate, because if you both betray, neither of you get anything (for psychological reasons, this is still the Prisoner's Dilemma - there is inherent value in insuring the other person gets nothing for betraying you. But it made it more likely for people to pick cooperate)

These two people sit down. One of them opens up the conversation by being very straightforward.
"I am going to betray you."
The other person is taken aback. Asks wtf he was doing.
"I am going to betray you. It's pretty simple. There's nothing you can do to change the outcome of my vote. But there is this - if you cooperate, I will give you half the winnings after the show. This guarantees that you can't betray me. You still have your choice - whether to trust me or not - but mine is simple. There is no better situation for me than betraying. So I am 100% absolutely positively going to betray you. Saying this is my gesture of trust - I am honest. I am being 100% honest with you right now, and am going to give you the other half if you choose to cooperate. I am not playing deceptively, but I am not going to play the game in a way where I'm going to lose, so I am going to betray."
Everyone is riveted, the host too. The other guy says "So my only chance is to cooperate and hope you give me half?"
"Yes."

No one can believe this. In a great many iterations, no one had ever taken the stance that they were DEFINITELY going to betray.

They submit their votes... and both players have submitted "cooperate". Turns out the guy wasn't being truthful at all. But it's probably the best lie I've ever seen.

Man, I wish I could remember the name of the show...

Golden balls. Loved that show.

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #28359 on: March 06, 2013, 04:56:11 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twvkzugLtu0
The comments and description being russian does not help much. 

And to sum it up for people who don't want to watch- I can't sum it up.  I tried, but I can't.  I stopped once I tried describing the part about the unicorn in a box. 
« Last Edit: March 06, 2013, 05:02:47 pm by Lightningfalcon »
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W-we just... wanted our...
Actually most of the people here explicitly wanted chaos and tragedy. So. Uh.

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« Reply #28360 on: March 06, 2013, 05:06:47 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twvkzugLtu0
The comments and description being russian does not help much. 

And to sum it up for people who don't want to watch- I can't sum it up.  I tried, but I can't.  I stopped once I tried describing the part about the unicorn in a box.
Any context? Because it's amazing. My guess would be unicorn is a euphemism for something. Something sciency.

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« Reply #28361 on: March 06, 2013, 05:08:27 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twvkzugLtu0
The comments and description being russian does not help much. 

And to sum it up for people who don't want to watch- I can't sum it up.  I tried, but I can't.  I stopped once I tried describing the part about the unicorn in a box.
Any context? Because it's amazing. My guess would be unicorn is a euphemism for something. Something sciency.
None.  None at all.  I was watching a video about Das Boot, and that was one of youtube's suggestions. 
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W-we just... wanted our...
Actually most of the people here explicitly wanted chaos and tragedy. So. Uh.

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« Reply #28362 on: March 06, 2013, 05:23:08 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twvkzugLtu0
The comments and description being russian does not help much. 

And to sum it up for people who don't want to watch- I can't sum it up.  I tried, but I can't.  I stopped once I tried describing the part about the unicorn in a box.
Any context? Because it's amazing. My guess would be unicorn is a euphemism for something. Something sciency.
Yeah, it's not a literal horse with a horn. That would be stupid. It's just a narwhal with a rebreather.
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« Reply #28363 on: March 06, 2013, 05:26:10 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twvkzugLtu0
The comments and description being russian does not help much. 

And to sum it up for people who don't want to watch- I can't sum it up.  I tried, but I can't.  I stopped once I tried describing the part about the unicorn in a box.
Any context? Because it's amazing. My guess would be unicorn is a euphemism for something. Something sciency.
Yeah, it's not a literal horse with a horn. That would be stupid. It's just a narwhal with a rebreather.
Why would a Narwhal need a rebreather?
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Actually most of the people here explicitly wanted chaos and tragedy. So. Uh.

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« Reply #28364 on: March 06, 2013, 05:28:40 pm »

Logic suspends itself in reality when Narwhals masquerade as Unicorns within impossible boxes.
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