The Bechdeltest and how many movies fail it! O.o
I guess this makes mine today.
More feminist bullshit. Saying that a film should have to have female main characters or else it obviously hates women. It sounds like one of these things where they're picking over something incredibly inane to pretend that women are some sort of oppressed slave class.
Nice strawman there. Did you make it yourself, or find it written on a bookmark in an old volume of How to Beat Your Wife?
Did you even read what it measures? All a movie has to do to pass is have at least one scene (no matter how short) where 1. two female characters (named, if you follow a stricter standard) 2. talk about something 3. other than men.
Now think about how many movies fail it. Then think about how many movies fail the reverse (having at least one scene where two or more named male characters talk about something other than women). It's not about individual movies being sexist, it's about the industry as a whole having a decidedly (heterosexual) male-oriented slant.
I'm reallly sick of this neo-masculinism (andrinism?) thing where men use the fact that there are some admittedly crazy feminists to dismiss feminism as a whole. It's like saying that environmental activists are all lunatic nutjobs because of PETA. That, and it's a poorly disguised excuse for certain types of men to go right on being sexist assholes.
I'm saying that making a big deal about what happens in movies is ridiculous. And just for clarification, where is my strawman? It seems like something that gets claimed a lot here, even where it isn't really there. At most, I put some hyperbole in there.
But it's the fact that it's acting as if the speaking roles in movies is actually important. Which it really isn't. As well as that I dislike feminism, I find it hard to believe that something named feminism is for equal rights rather than female superiority.
As a side note, I did notice that in the same sentence you accused me of using a strawman, you also accused me of supporting wife beating.
More feminist bullshit. Saying that a film should have to have female main characters or else it obviously hates women. It sounds like one of these things where they're picking over something incredibly inane to pretend that women are some sort of oppressed slave class.
"I am blatantly misrepresenting the intent of this thing. I then use my misrepresentation to explain why it isn't credible."
Strawman (n.):
1. A person compared to a straw image; a sham.
2. A sham argument set up to be defeated.
You presented the Bechdel test as being something it obviously isn't, then used that faulty representation to dismiss it as "more feminist bullshit". What you did was a damned near perfect example of a strawman.
Feminism is dubbed what it is because the movement began when
women were clear-cut second class citizens. What's next, are you going to try and claim that the NAACP exists to promote black supremacy?
Re: Your last point. My statement was a clear example of sarcasm. Oh, wait.
Sarcasm (n.):
1. The use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
I was making an ironic statement about the views which tend to lurk just beneath the surface of your apparent stance, while also showing just how much I detest that sort of thinking. It also helps that I wasn't the one spouting the sort of crap that you typically hear from misogynists who don't want to admit that they're bigoted. It's rather strange how so many white-heterosexual-males in the West tend to see "Let's have everyone be equal." as "Dem wimmenz and n- want to make us slaves!" Actually, not so strange. It's nice being on the top of the social order, isn't it? Almost makes one want to deliberately resist anything that might force one to compete with everyone else on an equal playing field.