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[ChairmanPoo]

Spoiler: Every time I see this gif, it causes me to go "WTF were they thinking when they made it" (click to show/hide)

I have to agree. I dont even need the gif. Watching that particular scene in an otherwise dynamic fight leaves you...

[Loud Whispers]

Why backspin?



Why?

[Shadowlord]

Aren't you supposed to walk without rhythm? Oh, wait, that's for sandworms.

[Flying Dice]

Spoiler: Every time I see this gif, it causes me to go "WTF were they thinking when they made it" (click to show/hide)

The best explanation I've heard is that that is what you get when two Force users who are almost evenly matched get so in synch with each other that neither is able to effectively strike because they know before they do that the other will be able to counter, so they lock briefly into a stalemate/holding pattern while trying to force an opening as each tries to outmaneuver the other's blade.

[Neonivek]

Flying Dice basically got it.

They are essentially in a stalemate unable to stop or attack because of the other.

[Flying Dice]

Yeah (going by that headcanon) despite how silly it looks from the outside, that's pretty much the only point in the prequels where a lightsaber battle is at all interesting, because in spite of the choreography and shitty plot setup it begins to approach the same level of underlying meaning as was in the lightsaber duels of the original trilogy. It's an illustration of how close Obi-Wan and Anakin have grown, of how well they know each other, and to a certain extent the fact that they're still not entirely comfortable with trying to kill each other, even if it's subconscious. Obi-Wan's more conservative, lower-effort movements suggest to the audience that he is still the more skilled of the two--fitting, as he was Anakin's master at that point in the timeline, and the only effective reflection of Vader's famous line in A New Hope. It's like poetry, it rhy- NOPE NOPE NOPE.

[TempAcc]

Outmanuever eachother's blade by swinging the blade around their back :v

Maybe being a force user just suddenly makes you really inept at fencing.

...
Hey, that actualy explains a lot.

[Neonivek]

Outmanuever eachother's blade by swinging the blade around their back :v

Maybe being a force user just suddenly makes you really inept at fencing.

...
Hey, that actualy explains a lot.

It is the lack of room, he needs to swing it behind his back to get the proper angle.

[TempAcc]

Pshhh.

Ironically, the most realistic representation of what jedi lightsaber combat could be like comes from the jedi knight game series, specially jedi knight: jedi academy. Sure, there's some pretty silly moves in that game (specially for the double blade saber staff thing), but hey, guess what, in multiplayer the players ignored the more fancy moves and just started using the most realistic and efficient moves against eachother. Fights rarely involve the huge, coreographed moves seen in the movies, but rather tend to end really quickly as the player just forgo the more acrobatic moves in favor of quick and efficient moves. The light style in that game is the closest thing to a realistic fencing style being used with a lightsaber I've seen anywhere (except for the weird spinny move thing).

[Aklyon]

Except in Jedi Outcast, the best way to outfight most lightsaber enemies is to just smash them with the red heavy stance, not the quick blue stance or the average yellow one. The ones who actually know how to fight are more difficult.

[kaenneth]

Keeps a friend of the opponent from sneaking up behind you.

[Shadowlord]

It's been years and I don't have it anymore, but can't you just shoot them? There are weapons that are in lockable by lifesavers.

... Wtf phone. UNBLOCKABLE BY LIGHTSABERS

P.S. I'm almost certain JK2, JO, and JA are blurring together in my memory. Maybe those weapons are only in JK2? Or memories of JK1 are in there too.

[Sirus]

Most of the weapons that are unblockable can either be Force-pushed away (missiles) or hax-dodged (sniper rifle). Maybe not all the time, but usually the stronger dark Jedi almost have to be taken down with sabers and powers.

[Shadowlord]

The other thing I remember doing when I didn't want to bother with saber fights, I think in whichever game had the enemies in the black saber-resistant armor, was picking them up with force choke and then dropping them off a cliff.

[Frumple]

Gamewise, anyway. Insofar as the canon-ish stuff goes, just about anything can be used to kill force users -- plenty, even very strong ones, are killed in straight up 1v1 situations by non-force sensitives with a blaster or just whatever, nevermind things actually stacked against them or fun stuff like orbital bombardment -- it's just significantly more difficult than it would be against someone that's not a trained user. They're quite kickass, but there's a reason armies and special forces and whatnot still exist in a universe crawling with force sensitives and other weird stuff.

And yeah, there's stuff in the universe that just flat no-sells lightsabers and most direct force counters (dodging or TKing the weapon itself might still work, ferex). Pretty sure sonic weaponry worked like that, amongst other things. The sabers and force sensitive critters get played up more than a little due to narrative, honestly. Y'gotta' remember that jedi got slaughtered pretty much en masse by freaking droidikas, nevermind the stuff that was actually vaguely competent. Impressive buggers, pound for pound, but most of their really notable work was via social-fu and whatnot. Even a lot of the sith stuff was about non-combat (or at least combat-via-proxy) applications. They were at their best as force multipliers rather than direct combatants, more or less.