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Author Topic: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O  (Read 14905764 times)

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #81930 on: July 27, 2015, 10:10:45 pm »

Logical from a "self" sense, rather than a species-level one.
... no, not really. Sex has pretty substantial physical, emotional, and social benefits to the individual, especially nowadays where the potential medical issues are largely controllable. Logically, even if you're not particularly emotionally inclined towards congress, regular sexual activity is almost certainly a highly desirable thing and more optimal than most other choices. Good for you, good for destressing, very difficult to surpass for creating and maintaining social bonds... we're really built for screwin', and abstaining largely has more issues than, well, not.

Doesn't even remotely mean that a person can't get by without it, but especially from a logical standpoint, it's something you want to be doing under most circumstances (taking the appropriate precautions et al, of course).
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« Reply #81931 on: July 27, 2015, 10:11:01 pm »

Asexual does mean "Not interested in sex", ne?

You can still form romantic bonds with people, you can still have a partner, there's just no sexual desire.
...Okay, but how is not wanting sex inherently, logically better for you?
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #81932 on: July 27, 2015, 10:11:49 pm »

Asexual does mean "Not interested in sex", ne?

You can still form romantic bonds with people, you can still have a partner, there's just no sexual desire.

I don't know. The 'self' quite enjoys the sexual desire, so long as there's the option of it being fulfilled. Spice. Girls. But no Spice Girls.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #81933 on: July 27, 2015, 10:12:46 pm »

...Okay, but how is not wanting sex inherently, logically better for you?
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #81934 on: July 27, 2015, 10:12:52 pm »

Ok, what about the actual physical and mental benefits of the sexual act itself? Because they do exist. Hormones get all sorts of crazy tweaks that do strange (mostly good) things to mental health, physical health, and so forth, even if we discount the actual physical exercise portion of sex.
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« Reply #81935 on: July 27, 2015, 10:15:27 pm »

*shrugs*

I guess it isn't that logical, I just see the benefits of being not interested in sex as greater than those of being interested. At least, the ones I'm aware of. It could change.
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« Reply #81936 on: July 27, 2015, 10:16:10 pm »

OK, then, what are the benefits you see of not being interested in sex?
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #81937 on: July 27, 2015, 10:17:25 pm »

Everyone should wish they were asexual, it's the most logical choice.
Why would people want to lose a part of their identity?
I am a heterosexual male. That's part of who I am, and I have no particular wish to change that.
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« Reply #81938 on: July 27, 2015, 10:21:02 pm »

I am also a heterosexual male, that's part of who I am, but I have a particular wish to be asexual, that's part of who I am.
Why would people want to lose a part of their identity?

That argument's sorta pointless Gig.

Anyway, Tawa, I mostly just wish to be free of desire. *shrug*
Plus, I'm also interested in how those people see the world.
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« Reply #81939 on: July 27, 2015, 10:22:01 pm »

Anyway, Tawa, I mostly just wish to be free of desire. *shrug*
Fair enough. Sort of a buddhist sentiment, in a way. Desiring to be free of desire and all that jazz.
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« Reply #81940 on: July 27, 2015, 10:22:36 pm »

Then you're trying to be an ascetic, not asexual (which really just means 'doesn't need a partner to reproduce' like the majority of single-celled organisms.)
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« Reply #81941 on: July 27, 2015, 10:24:38 pm »

Ascetic just means you don't do it, generally through self-discipline.  Though I find things to complain about, I'm glad I'm comfortable being celibate.  If I desired sex as much as most people seem to, I'd probably be a pickup artist and a miserable person.
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« Reply #81942 on: July 27, 2015, 10:27:07 pm »

Then you're trying to be an ascetic, not asexual (which really just means 'doesn't need a partner to reproduce' like the majority of single-celled organisms.)
Asexual can also be translated as "not desiring of sex", when taken as a sexual orientation (as opposed to a biological method).

Wishing to be asexual (in this particular case) would sort of be like saying "I really with my body didn't find sugar to taste good, because then I wouldn't constantly have to restrain myself from eating sugar".
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« Reply #81943 on: July 27, 2015, 10:28:16 pm »

'Abstinent' means you don't do it, 'Ascetic' is a lifestyle where one tries to overcome their desires.
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« Reply #81944 on: July 27, 2015, 10:28:56 pm »

Basically. Although I don't have to constantly refrain myself from having sex despite all the people constantly begging me to have it with them. I'm currently mostly uninterested rather than totally uninterested. I'm curious about how taking that last step, if it were possible, would affect me.

I'm not ascetic (in a general sense), unfortunately. No willpower.
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