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[Orange Wizard]

It's a clever fix for a stupid lack of functionality.

[Rolan7]

off-topic:  I just finished off a bag of m&ms while reading the creepier bits of the Marathon Story site.  I'm actually really creeped out right now, I checked my locks and keep looking behind me.  Listening for creaking floorboards.  It's 2:40AM I should try to sleep - but dammit I thought I just heard something again.

So if I stop posting it's because cthonian forces have carried me off to be a reincarnation of the eternal hero.  Alcohol was the only thing keeping them back!  What a fool I am - wait, being the Marathon guy is basically awesome, nevermind.

Okay I feel better now.

[UXLZ]

It's a clever fix for a stupid lack of functionality.

Beth's engines have always been pieces of shite, what's new?

Well, maybe Morrowind was ok-ish, for the time.

[Flying Dice]

It's a clever fix for a stupid lack of functionality.

In the same vein as how a NEET internet addict who learns to piss into bottles from a distance to avoid having to even move to grab one is technically clever but the situation as a whole is horrifying.

[Putnam]

It's a clever fix for a stupid lack of functionality.

In the same vein as how a NEET internet addict who learns to piss into bottles from a distance to avoid having to even move to grab one is technically clever but the situation as a whole is horrifying.

It really isn't?

It would be a fuckload of effort to create a proper train for literally less than a minute worth of gain. Not using a hack like that would be idiotic.

[UXLZ]

I think the point was that the engine should have supported moving platforms in the first place.

[Flying Dice]

It's a clever fix for a stupid lack of functionality.

In the same vein as how a NEET internet addict who learns to piss into bottles from a distance to avoid having to even move to grab one is technically clever but the situation as a whole is horrifying.

It really isn't?

It would be a fuckload of effort to create a proper train for literally less than a minute worth of gain. Not using a hack like that would be idiotic.

So are you missing the point deliberately, or...?

Because I have literally seen single-person made map mods that did a better job for less than fifteen seconds of gameplay. Never mind that other games did the exact same concept earlier for short sequences and they didn't seem to have any problems with it being too much work.

Clever work-saving hacky workarounds are clever right up until you realize that the people who made them were either too lazy to do it properly or the people that made whatever they were working with were too lazy to give them good tools and materials. You can patch a hole in a hull with tarpaper, plywood and spraypaint and it'll look fine to cursory inspection, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be dismayed when you figure out what was done.

[Gunner-Chan]

Are you two really going to just spray piss at eachother again? Really?

[Mech#4]

In the games made using the engine, I don't think there's been many situations where you would have a moving platform. Morrowind doesn't have electricity for elevators and, while you could have a pulley lift, it would be easier to have a lever that you activate which causes a fade out and the sound of the lift moving then actually animating the lift.  Fallout doesn't really have the infrastructure to have functioning lifts, and I can remember the transition for The Pit from the capital wasteland was a fade out when you activated the track cart.

The S.T.A.L.K.E.R. engine can't really handle moving platforms either, as the player tends to fall through them. Doom 1 is essentially a 2D game made to look 3D through illusion, Wolfenstein 3D has no textures for the floor or ceiling.
I think such workarounds for a limited engine speaks to a degree of ingenuity on the programmers part.


Thinking though, was there a lift inside the Washington Monument in Fallout 3?

[Orange Wizard]

* Orange Wizard hands out umbrellas.

[i2amroy]

It's not stupid, it's hilarious! That sounds exactly like something a game developer with only a few weeks left before release that is frantically trying to fix a broken train would do.

[UXLZ]

I gave deep dream a try, from seeing everything earlier, and... Well...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The image is a phone background I made, forum signature style.

*edit* Forgot thine image tags.

[ShoesandHats]

I like the dog-fused fingers there.

[Putnam]

So are you missing the point deliberately, or...?

jesus, never the fuck mind, if you're going to do this every damn time i'm not going to bother at all

you do not start an argument with "are you an idiot or just an asshole" if you expect to have any sort of proper discourse

[Helgoland]

Huh, you guys are really into watersports.
Not my thing though, really, and few other people's, sooooo....

I'll have to say though I sort of agree with Putnam's last line, even I'd probably have used different phrasing. That 'It really isn't?' line was weird as well though.
This somehow reminds me of the Vec/Max White situation.