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[Descan]

>_>

<_<

_{#NotAllFeminists.}

[scriver]

Oh yeah, here comes Bohandas with the "this forum is so oppressive" spiel again.

[Gunner-Chan]

Personally I kinda just wish less overtly and depressingly serious issues came up here, poi. They just tend to end before they can go anywhere and most often just make people less willing to hear other users out or paranoid. (Read: Neonivek and Weird often assuming they'll be attacked or ignored. Calm down guys! We're all friends here!)

Everyone could do with... What did toady call it? Amplifying their relaxed states? Poi?

[Bohandas]

Oh yeah, here comes Bohandas with the "this forum is so oppressive" spiel again.

Inconvenient comments/messages are simply made to disppear. That is something straight out of Ninteen Eighty-Four.

[Loud Whispers]

Oh yeah, here comes Bohandas with the "this forum is so oppressive" spiel again.

Inconvenient comments/messages are simply made to disppear. That is something straight out of Ninteen Eighty-Four.

We've lost a lot of good forumites o.o7

[Graknorke]

pedistal
pedistal
pedistal

pedestal

A whole page of impotent rage and my only point of complaint is spelling.

[Aklyon]

Oh yeah, here comes Bohandas with the "this forum is so oppressive" spiel again.

Inconvenient comments/messages are simply made to disppear. That is something straight out of Ninteen Eighty-Four.

Or future-UK.

[i2amroy]

The real problem is that the topics are never g8ven the chance to be resolved before being sent down the memory hole.

I'm gonna level with you here, I've been involved in a handful of these discussions (one of which that went on for ~3 days) that have gotten quite a bit into the discussion. The problem that usually causes things to blow up is one extreme person (for either side, I've seen discussions go up from both ways) who doesn't bother to fully read whatever anyone else says and quickly resorts to just launching attacks at other forumites, thus leading to attention from Toady.

The impression that sometimes Toady is fairly quick on shutting said discussions down comes from the fact that we've had a few of said discussions that started to happen shortly after one was shut down (often with extremists on both sides to force a fast degeneration), meaning we (and Toady) could already see what was going to happen because you had the exact same people starting to discuss the exact same topic with the exact same level of hostility. Ergo, a few of the discussions have been shut down within hours (while several have gone for much longer).

Net Result: As a person who has been involved in a rather large portion of said discussions on this forum stretching back for several years (and who has "argued" on both sides before), I'd say that Toady has been rather understanding and patient with the topic, and that in the vast majority of cases it's one or two forumites that ruin it for everyone else (and who usually get banned permanently after two-three times of blowing up topics like that, causing the "comments/messages disappear" effect that you are seeing).

[Loud Whispers]

Oh yeah, here comes Bohandas with the "this forum is so oppressive" spiel again.

Inconvenient comments/messages are simply made to disppear. That is something straight out of Ninteen Eighty-Four.

Or future-UK.

Current UK

[Cthulufaic]

CIV 5 PLZ.

I HAVE ENOUGH ANIMU WITH PERSONA, I DON'T NEED IT HERE TOO.

download link for those curious: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=449503576

[Graknorke]

Or future-UK.

Airstrip 1 WAS past!future!UK

[Flying Dice]

See, Jan- er, Gunner-Chan's described exactly why I try (and too often fail) to avoid getting into serious-modo arguments on here. I can't speak for anyone else, but I come to B12 to relax and argue less-seriously about silly things, because there's enough of that crap in my meatspace life and at least those arguments have a chance of resolving themselves in a productive way. The circular and repetitive arguments about politics, ideology, gender, &c. are worse than random shitpost RPing when it comes to derailing threads and reducing the quality of discourse, honestly.

Oh yeah, here comes Bohandas with the "this forum is so oppressive" spiel again.

Inconvenient comments/messages are simply made to disppear. That is something straight out of Ninteen Eighty-Four.

We've lost a lot of good forumites o.o7

The only good forumites we've lost are the ones who wandered off and never came back. The mod-log is full of abrasive jerks who repeatedly started arguments; the only one who I actually remember contributing anything worthwhile was burningpet when not involved with religious discussions.

[Aklyon]

CIV 5 PLZ.

I HAVE ENOUGH ANIMU WITH PERSONA, I DON'T NEED IT HERE TOO.

download link for those curious: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=449503576

Theres some touhous in your civ V too, if you poke the workshop somemore.

[Dutchling]

>implying touohous arent animu

[Graknorke]

The only good forumites we've lost are the ones who wandered off and never came back. The mod-log is full of abrasive jerks who repeatedly started arguments; the only one who I actually remember contributing anything worthwhile was burningpet when not involved with religious discussions.

I thought smeeprocket was alright, just with poor self control.