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[Solifuge]

If a person makes a Bondage thread, and then says "No sexual stuff guys, but I'm not going to tell you what to discuss", then what are people supposed to talk about? The leather industry? Then why can't it just be called "The Leather thread"?

That wasn't what the derail was about

Yeah but it was kinda the root.

"Furry" has sexual baggage, earned or not. If the OP didn't want people to immediately go to that she/he should have called it something less provoking to derails and trolls.

I was trying not to get involved again... but I said this in the old furry thread, and I'll say it again here. Furries are not inherently sexual deviants; for most of them, it is not a sexual thing. It's little different than saying all Anime fans are into Tentacle Hentai and blow-up-dolls, rather than recognizing that they are not the same things. A square may inherently be a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't inherently a square.

In my experience with the fandom (I'm not a member, but have joined a friend for 2 conventions, and had positive experiences) the majority of con-goers were normal people in silly hats who liked animation, and decided to pick cartoon animals as their focus. There was a small subset of the fandom that had animal RP characters they portrayed on internet boards, and requested art of them at conventions. A fraction of this small subset were interested in the deviance you're talking about. And most of those people were given a wide berth, even within the fandom. I think we see more of them on the internet, because it's the internet.

However, there's something about the fandom that I learned from my experience. There's a pervasive attitude of "Acceptance at all costs," not criticizing people for their quirks no matter how weird. Members of the fandom will defend almost anyone else in it, for whatever they're interested in. They're afraid of ostracizing some people, lest they themselves be ostracized in return... even if they just like drawing anthropomorphic fanart of Scar from the Lion King, because they think he's an awesome villain.

TL;DR - The actual problem with the Furry Fandom is that they're accepting, to a fault.

[Devling]

"Furry" has sexual baggage, earned or not.

[Solifuge]

Not aiming to defend the thread, here. My goal is to share my experiences. I don't have a lot of love for false information.

Feel however you do about it, all I ask is that you realize it only has sexual baggage in your head. And that only exists because you believe it does. It's a self-fulfilling opinion, a dogmatic truth... and that's not something you can justifiably hold against other people.

[Steelmagic]

I read the doom comic. I never knew doomguy was so violently insane or that he was so dedicated to correct disposal of radioactive materials.

[Akura]

Half WTF, half rage. For some reason, my parents replaced the shower curtain with a clear one. The old one did not need replacing, and why clear? I'm not exactly comfortable with it. And for that matter, they've been opening the bathroom window in such a way that it leaves a clear view to anyone using the toilet.

[Pnx]

That weird 1993 thread got me thinking, what if I went back in time five or six years and spoke with myself?
I tried to think about what I would have said to myself, the sorts of things I might be able to say to really prove I am myself from the future. And it occured to me just how incredibly different the situation I was in, the things I was going through, the things I thought, felt, did, were...

It seems really obscene to call that person me.

[SalmonGod]

Have had a weird, sharp pressure in my chest the last couple days, right below my sternum.  It's not really painful or anything, but it's uncomfortable and it's there.

[Gentlefish]

Does it hurt all the time, or only when you breathe? There is a difference It could be an infection of the lining of your lungs. Which -is- a thing, I found out through a teacher of mine.

[SalmonGod]

Does it hurt all the time, or only when you breathe? There is a difference It could be an infection of the lining of your lungs. Which -is- a thing, I found out through a teacher of mine.

I've had pleurisy before, so I know what that feels like.  I didn't even feel anything abnormal unless I tried to force more than a shallow breath.  Couldn't do anything but sit around and feel tired all the time from lack of oxygen.  This is more of a constant.  Not tied to breathing at all.

[Xantalos]

That weird 1993 thread got me thinking, what if I went back in time five or six years and spoke with myself?
I tried to think about what I would have said to myself, the sorts of things I might be able to say to really prove I am myself from the future. And it occured to me just how incredibly different the situation I was in, the things I was going through, the things I thought, felt, did, were...

It seems really obscene to call that person me.

I happen to know that my past self has considered this exact situation amy times before.
So no, I have no idea.

[Pnx]

That weird 1993 thread got me thinking, what if I went back in time five or six years and spoke with myself?
I tried to think about what I would have said to myself, the sorts of things I might be able to say to really prove I am myself from the future. And it occured to me just how incredibly different the situation I was in, the things I was going through, the things I thought, felt, did, were...

It seems really obscene to call that person me.

I happen to know that my past self has considered this exact situation amy times before.
So no, I have no idea.

The situation about how you prove you're you from the future to your past self if you go back in time, or the situation where your past self is immensely different from your present self?

[Jopax]

Spoiler: MAY CAUSE BRAIN BREAKAGE, OPEN AT YOUR OWN RISK (click to show/hide)

That's equally WTF-worthy and equally terrifying :C

And it's easy enough to prove that you're you, simply tell your younger self something that they would only know.

And honestly, all I can think of doing is punching my younger self, several times, that little dickbag has it coming, hopefully he'd get his act together sooner, rather than later.

[Loud Whispers]

Spoiler: MAY CAUSE BRAIN BREAKAGE, OPEN AT YOUR OWN RISK (click to show/hide)

That's equally WTF-worthy and equally terrifying :C

And it's easy enough to prove that you're you, simply tell your younger self something that they would only know.

And honestly, all I can think of doing is punching my younger self, several times, that little dickbag has it coming, hopefully he'd get his act together sooner, rather than later.

....It's like gutting a fish.

[Solifuge]

Jopax.... that's almost as bad as the Gore Spammer earlier. Sheeesh....

[Jopax]

I can replace it with a Cthulluoid Donald the Duck, it's equally scarring but less gorey.