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« Reply #2535 on: November 13, 2011, 01:49:06 pm »

Wow, your school actually got to WWII? Mine always ran out of time right after the Great Depression. It was sort of left as, "And then the War ended the Depression! If you want to learn more about anything since the 1930's, watch some movies or ask your parents."

Seriously. I never had a single history class prior to college that so much as mentioned Vietnam. Or Korea, for that matter. Or the Cold War, the Space Race, JFK, the Cuban Missile Crisis, etc. I think there was an attitude of, "You want to learn about the Cold War? We have Soviet nukes pointed at us RIGHT NOW. We could all die any second. There's your lesson. If you want to learn more about what life will be like after World War III, go watch Damnation Alley or On The Beach."
My AP US History class was required to reach the end of the Clinton Administration before the end of the year by school officials. My Honors World History class ended at WWII, but what was weird about that one is that we spent almost all of the 1st semester on China. Just China, for hundreds of years. I'm in AP European History right now, and we are also expected to reach WWII before the end of the year.

My AP US History predated the Clinton Administration.  :P
I don't remember how far we got in World History. I wish we'd spent that much time on China. And 1 semester is still just a brief summary course, speaking as someone who's took probably 36+ semester hours in college on Chinese history, religion, language, etc.
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« Reply #2536 on: November 13, 2011, 01:51:22 pm »

We learned absolutely nothing about the Japanese detainment camps in america, our teacher just went "Oh, well we did some stuff to the japanese americans. BUT LETS NOT GET INTO THAT NOW."

Which to me is odd because if there is anything we can really learn about as a society in WW2 is not to let our prejudice overwhelm us just because of the enemy we are fighting. As well as proper treatment of possible spies.

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« Reply #2537 on: November 13, 2011, 01:52:09 pm »

Anyway, here's a youtube channel with over 22,000 videos on it, all of the same woman ranting incoherently in a language I cannot identify. I think I've narrowed it down to a eastern european language, but I'm still not sure. Regardless, this woman is scary.
Russian, according to "Refbatch" google search.
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« Reply #2538 on: November 13, 2011, 01:54:20 pm »

I just remember distinctly how bad my 5th grade US history was. Pretty much just "Memorize these treaty names and dates. Don't worry so much about what they actually did and why you should care."

Oh, and the Trail of Tears was more or less presented as "The Indians needed to move to Oklahoma and President Jackson sent troops to help them. It was very cold and some of them died, which is sad. See, here's a picture of some sad Indians. Moving on...."  ::)
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« Reply #2539 on: November 13, 2011, 01:56:18 pm »

My social studies teacher was pretty awesome, she would openly state her dislike of Andrew Jackson and she made sure to have us know that the US government fucked over the indians.
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« Reply #2540 on: November 13, 2011, 01:56:48 pm »

The context of the ship that carried Jewish Refuges that were not allowed anywhere as told by school? They were afraid of Germany.
The Context in College? They didn't like Jews.

Which was true? (real question... I don't know. My best guess is both was true.)
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« Reply #2541 on: November 13, 2011, 01:58:49 pm »

Anyway, here's a youtube channel with over 22,000 videos on it, all of the same woman ranting incoherently in a language I cannot identify. I think I've narrowed it down to a eastern european language, but I'm still not sure. Regardless, this woman is scary.
Russian, according to "Refbatch" google search.
In non-Soviet Russia, time cubes you!
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« Reply #2542 on: November 13, 2011, 03:47:43 pm »

In my old secondry school histroy text book;
  • The Easter Rising has 12 pages
  • The war for Indepence has 10 pages
  • The Irish Civil war has a paragraph?!
The Civil war defined the landscape of Irish politics to this day and all we get is a few sentences saying why it happened and when it happened?
As for world war 2?
It focuses on what was happening to Ireland in this time with brief mention of major events overseas.
So yeah the American histroy books arn't the only ones that need a bit of revision.


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« Reply #2543 on: November 13, 2011, 03:51:10 pm »

In my old secondry school histroy text book;
  • The Easter Rising has 12 pages
  • The war for Indepence has 10 pages
  • The Irish Civil war has a paragraph?!
The Civil war defined the landscape of Irish politics to this day and all we get is a few sentences saying why it happened and when it happened?
As for world war 2?
It focuses on what was happening to Ireland in this time with brief mention of major events overseas.
So yeah the American histroy books arn't the only ones that need a bit of revision.

History books in schools cannot contain world history in large detail, which is why they have to stay mainly local.

I mean, have you even heard of how Malaysia obtained independence? Or the defence of Oman?

If that's the case, then history students worldwide should despair :P

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« Reply #2544 on: November 13, 2011, 03:56:53 pm »

If I'm guessing it right, Ireland is local for Jerick
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« Reply #2545 on: November 13, 2011, 04:03:56 pm »

If I'm guessing it right, Ireland is local for Jerick
Yep, I supose I should have explictly stated that.
It just I find it annoying that one of the most of important events in my country's history is barely mentioned when it would be simple to cut down on the rather bloated chapter on the easter rising.
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« Reply #2546 on: November 13, 2011, 04:10:44 pm »

The context of the ship that carried Jewish Refuges that were not allowed anywhere as told by school? They were afraid of Germany.
The Context in College? They didn't like Jews.

Which was true? (real question... I don't know. My best guess is both was true.)
I think it's probably both, yes. The US was very determined to remain neutral until Pearl Harbor, but anti-semitism in politics was at its all time high then. After the Holocaust was reveled that tapered off pretty fast, though.
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« Reply #2547 on: November 13, 2011, 04:12:34 pm »

Perhaps one of the main things I learned in my AP History class is that history books are pretty terrible sources of information. They're usually biased and often have information easily as untrustworthy as urban legends.
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« Reply #2548 on: November 13, 2011, 07:15:20 pm »

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