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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #166245 on: February 13, 2025, 05:10:18 am »

From the sound of all this, it seems I need a wall of rats to throw at the wall of lava, which should cause both of them to explode, thus leaving both sides tied!
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« Reply #166246 on: February 13, 2025, 08:38:52 am »

If you are going to throw rats in lava, let me get behind this handy, non liquid, rock. When a bag of liquid water gets submerged in lava, it explodes. Which will splash the lava all over the place.
Well, this just happened at work today. There was some water in a container meant for what can be considered lava, and it sprayed the lava out. Luckily, nobody was hurt.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #166247 on: February 13, 2025, 07:33:11 pm »

-It even mimics plastic plants it's placed nearby
Very interesting. (Also: "lenght", figure 5, etc. I've been doing too much proof-reading, recently.)
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« Reply #166248 on: February 14, 2025, 02:56:50 am »

So, Windows 11 updated itself during the night and decided to delete WordPad and shut (without saving) all the .rtf files I had open... which I had forgotten to save before going to sleep. Of course.

Was a bit of WTF when I tried to launch WordPad and noticed it's gone. Missing. Deleted. Apparently this should've happened a year or so ago, but somehow I'd missed it despite keeping my Windows up-to-date.

(Fortunately I managed to recover both WordPad and the unsaved files despite my puny skills, so crisis averted. But I did curse a lot.)

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« Reply #166249 on: February 14, 2025, 03:21:07 am »

If windows is going to attempt to delete it again anyway, I'd suggest getting notepad++. Works great for everything text related and opens a lot of scripting and config file types to boot
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« Reply #166250 on: February 14, 2025, 03:26:07 am »

What are .rtf files, I've never heard of those before.
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« Reply #166251 on: February 14, 2025, 04:06:42 am »

If windows is going to attempt to delete it again anyway, I'd suggest getting notepad++. Works great for everything text related and opens a lot of scripting and config file types to boot

I have it, but I've been using WordPad for so long that I prefer it as my writing tool. Notepad++ has a bit of too much fancy stuff in it, so for .txt files I prefer the brutalism of regular Notepad.
Edit: also, Notepad++ requires a plugin for .rtf files

(I took a backup of WordPad, so if it gets deleted again, it won't be a problem.)

What are .rtf files, I've never heard of those before.

Rich Text Fomat. It preserves formatting etc. between different word processors and operating systems. It's just something I learned to use back in the day, so that's why I keep using it.

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« Reply #166252 on: February 14, 2025, 04:44:35 am »

"RichText Format", a very 'lite' type of wordprocessing format (like .CSV is for spreadsheets, except that doesn't even have (much) formatting). ((Ah, ninjaed, while I was spouting the following...))

Personally, the first thing I did when I got my hands on Win11 was to install LibreOffice as the default aternative to the limited MSOffice that was prepackaged (was it Office365, even? such that you're now continually 'renting' it?). Since OpenOffice/LibreOffice has been a thing, I've never used Wordpad any more, but .odt it (or save as .doc, if it's a document going to someone else) if I want a 'proper' word-processor document. Otherwise, native Notepad for plain-text.

About the only thing about 11's native notepad that I like[1], though, is it's 'recovery' option. If it crashes (or, as I also found out, if I leave the machine running overnight and I haven't taken time to close everything manually and restart-to-update before re-opening everything I want to run overnight, now not in danger of being force-rebooted while I sleep), it does at least let me re-open all .txts that were open (and more... see footnote!). I know there's Notepad+, but I am just so used to working with bog-standard Notepad (whether it's with .txt, .pl, .htm or .svg files ... I don't feel the need for context-sensitive formatting, etc, though I do know that three of those could be enhanced by this) since Windows 3.1 (and probably earlier), and it's been a handy constant, until suddenly it seems someone has 'improved' it.


BTW, iI you install LibreOffice, do remember to configure its autosave (or check that it's active, but the version I installed was the first one that hadn't got it), as the first time 11 surprised me with a overnight reboot, I got my .txt files in Notepad 'back', but the LibreOffice documents ('word' docs, spreadsheets) were back at the prior savepoint again! (Since then, the second 'surprise out-of-hours reboot' at least didn't rewind everything. And, since the second SOOHR, I've taken great care to fulfil any noted pending reboot (and re-open what I do actually need) prior to leaving it unattended. (I could also manually change the 'hours' it has decided to suggest are being "least used", but as it doesn't let me set it to "none, none at all, do you know how ecleptic my sleep/wake patterns are???", I decided against that.  Still, if you want to set it to "siesta time", rather than "in the early hours", that is always an option if that suits your running schedule.

Sorry, this is (some of!) my combined general impressions of all the little niggles that I have had to get used to on the 'latest' Windows version, just getting them off my chest in one big blast. I'm on top of it all, now (if, suddenly, I find I've got about 100Gb less disk space than I had a few hours ago, I know I'm probably going to get a "updates will install when you next reboot (or in the middle of the night!)" warning, then after I force the reboot-to-update I suddenly regain those 100Gb or so back again... Good job I'm never on a metered data connection, with that machine, I suppose!


[1] Not sure in which post-Vista version it changed, but they've tried to 'improve' it, but made it more unstable and less flexible in its latest version than before, and prone to crashing (with the 'autorecover' of everything you had open only after the second re-open of Notepad, at which point it opens things I had definitely finished with and closed! It also makes for confusion when it re-opens a 'cached' .txt that has been changed since (by other means), giving a very confusing message about what might or might not be the latest opened version, often leading me to Save As a slightly different name so I can review all versions and try to reconcile what I want... Oh, and if you want to have slightly-edited and as-per-last-savs .txt documents side by side, it won't countenance opening both (in tabs or, as I prefered to set it, seperate windows that seem nonetheless to be still different instances of the same running root process), because it thinks you've made a mistake. You have to make a copy of the stored original, and open that alongside the modified-from-save version.  Plus if you use ctrl+ and ctrl- to alter the size of one "notepad text window", it changes them all. Then, after ctrl0ing it bacm to default, you'll likely find that scrolling down a different text document, the font is (also) back to default but line-spacing is still as if the font is the larger scale (like "line and a half" inter-line gap), until you tap ctrl+ and ctrl0 to re-reset that notepad window instance. And the flashing text cursor ("|", but <blink>ing) will often fail to refresh after Alt-Tabbing in and out of the notepad instance, leaving multiple static "|"s in there. If you move the text-chrskr back over it, it flashes again, but only because the static | reverse videos the on/off/on | to be an off/on/off one. Quick fix for that is to align the text cursor over the 'phantom' one(s) and add a tab-space (then delete it again, unless a tab at that point is useful to you). Doesn't get rid of the phantom with normal-space (or line-feed, or printable characters), buf a tab does! Really, so many ways in which the 'new' notepad seems to have been rebuilt with added bugs (one would expect that it should work better with the native window-rendering API than non-MS apps, but the evidence is entirely the reverse).
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« Reply #166253 on: February 14, 2025, 08:51:42 am »

If you've never taken the time to give N++ a try, I'd definitely recommend. I used to mostly use wordpad and/or notepad, too, but, like... N++'s just kind of better. If you don't want the fancy features (I've barely touched the context sensitive stuff, the fanciest I get is regex for batch replacement and some macros at work), you don't have to use them, and the functioning and whatnot is pretty notably more reliable.

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Managed to basically drive relevant legislation in 12 states, more or less kill what they were trying to kill across the nation; it's not been until like the 00s some of the stuff's been reverted. Their logo goes kinda' hard, ha.
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« Reply #166254 on: February 14, 2025, 10:30:45 am »

+1 notepad++ is so good
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« Reply #166255 on: February 14, 2025, 04:24:50 pm »

Speak of the devil... in the bottom corner right now: "Windows Update", "Your device will restart to update outside of active hours (estimate: 4 min)", "Leave it on and plugged in. Open Settings to adjust your active hours and whether you want reminders." [Restart now] [Ok]

(They could name one or other of the buttons better., as well. Yes, I know that "Ok" is "Ok, I shall let it happen as you just described", but it could be taken as "Ok, restart now!", with no other contradictory option.)
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« Reply #166256 on: February 15, 2025, 03:55:18 am »

... any case, encountered the 70s era skibidi toilet of stateside politicial activism,
Strange to think there were enough pay toilets to need a group to go after them.
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« Reply #166257 on: February 15, 2025, 06:24:11 am »

Speak of the devil... in the bottom corner right now: "Windows Update", "Your device will restart to update outside of active hours (estimate: 4 min)"
I left if. I closed down everything I might have normally left open and left it, went to bed, woke up, did went out first thing in the morning, just got back. And it hasn't yet self-updated...  (Firefox, on re-opening just for this, apparently had, but that's different.)

(As to Notepad++, I prefer to stick to Lowest Common Denominator. So long as I can do everything I want to do with standard software (may be subject to practical thinking, and possibly some decisions that only work for me, such as liking to actively install Open/LibreOffice on my normal machines, set to save as .doc/.xls/etc as defult, rather than get tied into at-least-trial-licence MSOffice and .docx/.xlsx/etc, and making do with whatever situation is on others' devices), I'm not missing bells and whistles and IDE-style features that I might later miss when I'm 'off book'. Still, latest version of Notepad(--) from Windows seems like it's trying to add bells and whistles, but... doing a half way job, and not even doing that well. Yet, only just noticed, apparently it now has an AI "Rewrite" feature, with Rewrite/Make Shorter/Make Longer/Change Tone/Change Format options (which I may try to see what it'll do with my .pl scripts). Just like my Android version of Adobe Acrobat Reader apparently now wants to try to use AI to summarise my document for me (look, it's probably a bus/train timetable, and you might just have the ability to know what time it currently is (not necessarily when I'm actually looking ahead for...), but you sure as hell don't have the ability to know where I am, so even if the AI's good enough to understand the tables as what they are, it's probably going to be useless at doing that), which can make the start-up time so long that the information I'm occasionally looking for can be superceded by an actual bus turning up and making it unnecessary. That and the "would you like to log in" option (no, no, thrice no!). Sorry, just more related petty annoyances that seem more linked in my mind than maybe they ought to be.)

Anyway, in a few minutes (when I've done something else), I'm actually rebooting-to-update, like I should have done last night, if I hadn't been curious to wonder what time it thought the unattended machine was going to be at its quietest. (Except, apparently, it didn't. Despite having absolutely no programs open, unlike the usual several-dozen windows of all kinds that it would normally happily close down, just because I'm not currently paying attention to it.)
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« Reply #166258 on: February 15, 2025, 08:37:22 am »

... any case, encountered the 70s era skibidi toilet of stateside politicial activism,
Strange to think there were enough pay toilets to need a group to go after them.
They're apparently still fairly common... just basically outside the US. CEPTIA helped kill them as a meaningful enterprise stateside (there's still some -- nik-o-lok is still in business -- but not a lot), other countries weren't as lucky as to have an effective equivalent.
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« Reply #166259 on: February 15, 2025, 02:28:30 pm »

For today's WTF, the wiki for Cataclysm DDA is gone:
Reddit Community Commentary: https://www.reddit.com/r/cataclysmdda/comments/1crug62/what_happened_to_cdda_wiki/


Another amazing source of information on this game, which sorely needs all the publicly available information that it can get, is gone.  :'(