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[Mathel]

I was debugging a thing, on the computer, but one image would not display. I checked that the image was functional, I checked that the path was correct. The image would display in most circumstances, but not in the ones I wanted. Other images would display in those circumstances though.

After a lot of frustration, I finally discovered the cause. The image was in the correct location but also in the correct location! There were two valid locations where it could be, and it was at both. This somehow confused the program, so it did not display the image at all.

[McTraveller]

Ah, a violation of the Principle of Least Astonishment strikes again!

I mean, I can see that perhaps there's some logic that says "if there are two valid things, it's unclear which we should use, so use neither."  Failing to communicate that, however, or giving an instruction to the user to disambiguate - that's the failure.

[Lord Shonus]

It could have been caused by the lack of a deliberate failsafe - I've seen programs before that had a set of hierarchies to choose between two things, but locked up or spun into a loop if all the hierarchical criteria happened to be identical.

[pisskop]

500s are becoming a bit of a problem

[heydude6]

Yeah they're getting more and more frequent. I wish Toady at least made a statement acknowledging the problem.

[Starver]

Being currently a bit too expected (though I'm not perceiving a particular uptick, since I suddenly did start getting them), I'm wondering if discussion/gripes about the 500s should go to a thread of its own... Also a better place (if he doesn't want to do an Announcement one for their own use) for Tarn/whoever to post any executive updates back to us...

I'd start it myself, but I'm probably more patient about the issue than would justify that.

(edit: Ironically, 500ed on posting this. Probably just the 3rd time that a "Save" invoked it for me, during this period, against every other element of site navigation.)

[Ziusudra]

Well, there's Is the server dying?

[pisskop]

cant see it; 500d  :p


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#EndtheFed’: Elon Musk endorses plan to let presidents meddle with Federal Reserve after Trump election win

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/09/elon-musk-endorses-trump-intervene-federal-reserve.html

Gross.  Can we not allow this to get legs?

[martinuzz]

Yeah 500s are getting excessive now. It used to be a single one, then it works again. I just had 2 in a row followed by a page not found.

[Maximum Spin]

#EndtheFed’: Elon Musk endorses plan to let presidents meddle with Federal Reserve after Trump election win

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/09/elon-musk-endorses-trump-intervene-federal-reserve.html

Gross.  Can we not allow this to get legs?

This is really what they call a "psyop".

Trump appointed the current Federal Reserve chair, Democrats meekly brought him round for another term.
The Fed repaid them by... taking action over the runup to the election that, according to its own economic theory, was expected to cause inflation to spike, knowing that inflation was widely considered the #1 issue driving voters to Trump.
I'd say it's more likely that this manufactured angst over the independence of the Fed is intended to build support for a Republican bill to expand the power and protection granted the Fed, so that the next term, which will be appointed by Trump again, may not even be up for reconfirmation by his successor. After all, if the grave fear is that Trump might replace the Fed chair, why shouldn't they lengthen terms to eight years or more (starting, as always, with the next), or even allow Chairmen to appoint their own successors?
Over the last Presidential term, financial blogs have fastidiously documented the ways Treasury sec'y Yellen, considered a progressive by those for whom the word is an insult, has taken actions that economists regard as directly and indirectly contradictory to contemporaneous Fed policy. Will we now see the Treasury disempowered or even made subsidiary to the Federal Reserve?

The Republican understanding at this point is that the next Republican president will want to keep everything the way Trump puts it anyway, so they are more likely to act to make it harder for the next Democratic president to change it.

[King Zultan]

I've yet to see any 500s today, makes me wonder what causes it to show up more for other people.

[Il Palazzo]

I've yet to see any 500s today, makes me wonder what causes it to show up more for other people.

On the 11th day of the 11th month, at the eleventh hour* the Toad awoke from his slumber and touched the forum with His glory. And lo, the invasion of the Five Hundred was no more.

*in certain time zones

[martinuzz]

Awesome!

[Starver]

I just know that I'm going to be a lot more anxious, for a while, not really knowing how it got fixed than I ever was when I didn't definitely know how it was breaking. But I'm probably just a lost cause, and I seek no pity.

[pisskop]

Toad Man popped into the 'is the server dying' thread and said he did a thing