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[hector13]

Drugs manufacturers get away with having exactly the same thing as a generic brand and charging 5x the amount so there are worse things.

[Eric Blank]

I often think that's because a large portion of the populace doesn't realize the generic product must legally be literally identical and held to the same production standards as the brand name

[EuchreJack]

Basically any protection can be waived if there's a legitimate workplace need, or if there's no possible Reasonable Accommodation.

Oh hey, I just read about that. US Supreme Court is gonna look at that:
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/supreme-court-showdown-sabbath-change-workplaces-us/story?id=98027258

[Frumple]

If the expensive fancy bread has the same weight/mass as the cheap bread but has less salt, you are not actually paying more for less sad to say.

Yeah, it's 4 oz less bread for slightly more than twice the price, heh. Hadn't actually paid attention to that before, but you made a point worth checking. Price per oz is like 17 vs 25, this ain't super fancy stuff, but it's enough to notice.

[EuchreJack]

It's one of those things I've kvetched about before, but sometimes it just... there's really stark examples. Recently noticed a new-ish type of bread they're selling ("keto-friendly" nonsense, but like the organic nonsense for some other stuff I buy, that crap isn't the point of why I get it) that has significantly less (~70 mg per slice vs ~110 for 1 in standard bread, with slice size and whatnot about even) salt in it but still tastes fine (There's actually outright near saltless bread I've found, but beyond storage issues it tastes just kinda' foul), and, like.

It's about twice the price of the cheap wheat bread around here. Twice the price, just to get something with ~half the salt.

I get why it happens (less demand, so less scale benefit, fancy horseshit=price gouging, etc.), but it's still a WTF every time for price to go up as material amount goes down. There's a part of me that's persistently insistent it's bullshit to pay more to get less of something

You're thinking of Salt/calories as a benefit, and thus you'd be wise not to buy the more expensive option.
But if a product had 50% less toxic waste and cost 5x as much, then it'd be a no-brainer. Don't buy the stuff that'll kill you.

[Frumple]

... no, I'm definitely thinking of salt as a detriment -- I'm doctor mandated to be avoiding the stuff as much as reasonable, heh. The more expensive thing just has less stuff in it. It's just bread either way, even the cheap stuff is fairly safe as stateside food goes. It just has nearly double the salt.

[EuchreJack]

The True WTF is Diet Juice. They get that by watering down the juice. It's literally the same product with more water.
Just buy the regular stuff and add water, people!
..but that requires measuring and balancing, and for two US dollars, why bother?

[Frumple]

Not just measuring and balancing, but also extra storage and whatnot! I can definitely vouch that doing stuff like that has a cost to it beyond just the measuring and whatnot effort involved, having done it before, heh.

It's one of those small ways people on limited space get dumped on. As they say, it's expensive to be poor.

E: Though, uh, also it's a bit more complicated than "just add water" a lot of the time? Those diluted juice drinks taste significantly different from juice that's been watered down, in my experience, so there's something else going on with those.

[EuchreJack]

Well, as I had stated, it comes down to balancing. I used to buy 100% Juice exclusively, but getting it to taste decent was far more trouble than the extra cost was worth.

I did however have luck with making my own Iced Tea. Unfortunately, my favorite ingredient, ginsing, has been illusive at the grocery store.

[King Zultan]

When in doubt make it yourself, I've been told that bread is easy to make but I have no experience with that since I can't cook to save my life.

[Mathel]

It is fairly easy to make bread. I did it for a time.

It is difficult to make bread that stays edible for more than 2 days. It usually went rock-hard after a while.

[GiglameshDespair]

As with all these make-yourself sort of things, it might be cheaper to buy flour (and I guess the power spent in cooking it and w/e else) but it also costs more time, and you gotta find a balance between the two costs.

[scriver]

It is fairly easy to make bread. I did it for a time.

It is difficult to make bread that stays edible for more than 2 days. It usually went rock-hard after a while.

That's soup bread, and urs great

[Frumple]

As with all these make-yourself sort of things, it might be cheaper to buy flour (and I guess the power spent in cooking it and w/e else) but it also costs more time, and you gotta find a balance between the two costs.

... more than that, it's actually sometimes difficult to find flour without salt in it. Like, it exists and it's not super hard to find, but it's more difficult to find than salted flour and sometimes has stock issues you're not going to have with the salted stuff.

It's really hard to overstate how much fucking sodium most countries put in their foodstuffs. Most folks probably don't think about it or notice until they have a dietary reason to do otherwise, but once you do notice, just... shit is everywhere. Everywhere, and usually in fairly unreasonable quantities.

It's mildly amazing the world doesn't have more problems with hypertension and whatnot than it already does.

[Il Palazzo]

You live in culinary dystopia.