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[scriver]

Gomex: Catalan
Gomekx: Basque

[LordBaal]

Humix: Ork

[ChairmanPoo]

So that flat earther who wanted funds to build a rocket and check for himself? Well, he did, and ended as well as you might guess https://amp.tmz.com/2020/02/22/daredevil-mad-mike-hughes-dead-dies-rocket-crash-land/

[Eric Blank]

I thought that was the internet making shit up again. Because it sounded fucking nuts as it was.

Turns out he really was fucking nuts though, eh?

[CABL]

...

To paraphrase a quote from CK2, "One less threat to the Round Earth establishment".

[LordBaal]

Was he trying to get to Elisyum?

[King Zultan]

Even if he made it up there he'd still clam the Earth was flat.

[Reelya]

You're not going to convince them like that. Of course, they already have canned explanations for all such observations:

https://wiki.tfes.org/Viewing_Distance

It has been noted that although the earth is flat, distant continents thousands of miles away remain unseen. This is due to the fact that the atmosphere is not perfectly transparent. There is a limit to human sight before all lands are faded and obscured by the thickness of the atmosphere.

Atoms and molecules are not transparent and so distant objects will be faded with distance. For example, notice how these distant mountains tend to fade out and become discolored with distance. That's because the atmosphere is not perfectly transparent. When you look through the atmosphere you are looking through a fog of atoms and molecules. If the earth had no atmosphere those distant mountains would be as clear and sharp as the foreground.

Viewing distance into the horizon is directly correlated with pressure, gas constant, temperature, humidity, and pollution. At sea level the average air density is 1.2250 kg/m3. This sort of density will allow a viewing distance of around 25 miles across the horizon. In New York pollution and humidity are at such high levels that viewing distance is limited to 15 miles.

At higher altitudes the air density drops sharply, allowing the viewer to see far away lands before they are obscured by a blue-white sky. It is for this reason that an observer standing on Mt. Everest can see other mountains hundreds of miles away. Such pristine conditions are rare on the earth, however, only existing at high altitudes and in frigid environments.

So the argument is that the air is too thick to see through until you get to a high altitude.

This explanation doesn't make any sense however, does it?

[pisskop]

thats actually a really good attempt.  The mountain bit is garbo, but its really admirable.  And rabbit holey

[Reelya]

First point is that things aren't faded. If they're 100% faded at that distance, where are the half-faded things in between? You can point binoculars at something on the horizon and it isn't faded at all. That's a big problem for the explanation right there.

Second problem is that when you're a sea and approaching a landmass, the highest point is seen first. This explanation would imply that there should be some fuzzy/faded bit between the horizon and the mountain. Which isn't what happens. Stuff instantly comes over the horizon perfectly in focus.

Third problem is that it implies your viewing distance should *drop* as you climb higher, because of the greater distance of air between you and the existing horizon.

[hector13]

So... air density changes the higher up you are so you can see further, but the further away you are from earth, the more air there is between you and the object you are viewing?

I don’t know why I find the lack of logic from flat-earthers to be quite so amazing, but I do.

Hell, they just said there are mountains and shit, so you say you can’t see things because while the theory is flat earth, it’s not a completely flat plane so you just can’t see beyond the undulations!

[Reelya]

Reading a bit on the topic, I came across this wtf

https://www.boredpanda.com/space-force-uniforms/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

Why does the Space Force have woodland camouflage? Are they going to blend in with the Space Trees? If you want space camouflage, given them all black uniforms.

[pisskop]

I think its more about them having traditional attire.  To seem as much like military as possible.  Or are we going to issue them all jedi robes and cadet uniforms?

[scriver]

The real question is -- why do sci fi space navies waste so much time on cloaking devices when all they need to have gone was paint the ship in camouflage?

(But on a real note didn't the USA send the army or marines to Afghanistan or Iraq in woodland camo because of... I don't remember why?

[TamerVirus]

We should just go back to WWI style dazzle camouflage