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[Reelya]

garlic powder
onion powder
black pepper
white pepper
red pepper

For a second I thought you snuck "black powder" in there.
Thanks for the advice!  I'm not good with spices, but I do put sage in stuff sometimes to make it remind me of breakfast sausages.  I need to get some more garlic powder actually.  Not a fan of black pepper though, and I don't know about white pepper.

Definitely try onion flakes or onion powder though, that can add some flavor without being really "spicy".

[wierd]

garlic powder
onion powder
black pepper
white pepper
red pepper

For a second I thought you snuck "black powder" in there.
Thanks for the advice!  I'm not good with spices, but I do put sage in stuff sometimes to make it remind me of breakfast sausages.  I need to get some more garlic powder actually.  Not a fan of black pepper though, and I don't know about white pepper.

White pepper comes from the same plant as black pepper, but is processed differently.

While black pepper is the "entire" dried pepper corn that has been ground up (technically, it's a drupe, and it contains the dried fleshy part of the drupe, which is the black part in the powder), while white pepper is made with a fermentation process that removes the exocarp (fleshy outer part), and leaves just the seed inside.  It is then powdered.

white pepper is not as.. "intense" as black pepper, and is less visible as an ingredient.  It is useful in white gravies/sauces that you dont want to see black specks floating in. Similar for processed white meats, like chicken or pork-- where you dont want to see the pepper, but want some of pepper's flavor/kick.

[Kagus]

I actually have a veg chilli recipe that I use for taco/burrito filling, but it's by necessity fairly thick so I don't know what a chilli purist would think of it.

As for tofu, tofu just tastes like whatever you season/marinate it with. Very versatile, not massively flavorful on its own.

Growing up, our go-to meatless dogs (can't really call a hot dog a sausage) used to be Smart Dogs, but they've apparently been bought up by a larger company and have gone full crazy. Never used to care much for tofurkey, but they've supposedly stepped up their game somewhat.

We were never really big on meat-a-likes though, since we really didn't care about getting an "authentic" beef/chicken/pork flavor, so we'd usually just go for something that tasted like itself rather than something trying to taste like something else. As such, I've had some actually pretty good black bean burgers that just went full out on being the bestest beans they could be.


Also, fuck white pepper. I do not grind pepper to be inoffensive, I grind pepper to be pepper.

[Tack]

I find that anything made with chickpeas will ultimately taste like chickpeas. Better to just roll with it.

[GiglameshDespair]

garlic powder
onion powder
black pepper
white pepper
red pepper

For a second I thought you snuck "black powder" in there.
Thanks for the advice!  I'm not good with spices, but I do put sage in stuff sometimes to make it remind me of breakfast sausages.  I need to get some more garlic powder actually.  Not a fan of black pepper though, and I don't know about white pepper.

A pinch of black powder makes it explode with flavour.

[wierd]

garlic powder
onion powder
black pepper
white pepper
red pepper

For a second I thought you snuck "black powder" in there.
Thanks for the advice!  I'm not good with spices, but I do put sage in stuff sometimes to make it remind me of breakfast sausages.  I need to get some more garlic powder actually.  Not a fan of black pepper though, and I don't know about white pepper.

A pinch of black powder makes it explode with flavour.

Naw, too high in nitrates. The only thing it will make explosive is your cardiologist when he sees how low your blood pressure is. ;P (well, aside from your flatulence, from all the added sulfur.)

[NJW2000]

We don't go in for hotdogs as much in England, but my friends and I can't tell the difference between normal and vegetarian hotdogs. Which, come to think of it, taste like almost nothing else. Even German/Austrian bratwurst sausage barely comes close.

[hops]

I mean, you get plenty of sulfur from McDonalds anyways, what with them summoning hellmeat these days.

[wierd]

I mean, you get plenty of sulfur from McDonalds anyways, what with them summoning hellmeat these days.

Gotta keep costs low SOMEHOW-- With those workers now demanding actually livable wages, you gotta cut some other corner to keep those 1$ menu items the trailer trash seem to believe are basic human rights.

(as an aside... Has anyone figured out a way to make DF demons be able to be butchered? It would be hilarious to see a fully functioning dwarven settlement living not on kitten or puppy biscuits, but demon ones instead.)

[hops]

I don't think DF demons are even made out of meat.

[NJW2000]

Some are butcherable, some aren't meat-based. It's been done industrially, I think in Silentthunders or Archcrystal or son other fort.

[TD1]

Archcrystal and son: we will screw you over.

Also, I've always wondered whether there are healthy alternatives to meat which give you the required nutrients.

I find myself ethically opposed to the meat trade.

[Kagus]

Well, I mean... yeah. Most meat really isn't that good for you. Unless you have a specific medical condition such as Crohn's that makes the digestion of nonheme protein problematic, you really don't need anywhere near as much concentrated protein as meat provides, and everything else barring omega-3 fatty acids from fish can be either easily matched or far exceeded by non-meat sources.

Meat (especially industrialized meat product) tends to additionally have a few things you specifically don't want to consume a lot of, and that can lead to health problems if you eat it too regularly.

It's a fine calorie/nutrient bomb to help restore the body after a period of malnutrition or starvation, but from a nutrition perspective there's generally no need for meat in the standard diet at all.

We just eat it because it's tasty. It's definitely not necessary (again, barring certain medical conditions).

[TD1]

Yea, but are meat alternatives healthy?

[Yoink]

Meat really doesn't actually have all that much protein when you compare it to beans etcetera.
The one thing that people like to say is near-impossible to get on a vegan diet is B12, but the only reason meat and eggs contain it is because it is artificially added to livestock feed. Apparently B12 is much harder to get due to modern farming practices or some shit. *shrug*

A lot of mock-meats have added B12, but as long as you make sure to eat at least something that includes it (I go with nutritional yeast and salt-reduced Vegemite, personally) you shouldn't really need to worry about supplements or any such nonsense.

Fakeedit: most of them are! A glance at the nutritional info on the packaging should tell you quickly enough in any case.
The only "meat alternative" I have at the moment is a couple boxes of Fry's sausage rolls, which obviously aren't terribly healthfood-oriented, but even they have plenty of protein and carbs without being overly fatty. More importantly, they taste pretty great.