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[Hanslanda]

I googled extended magazines for my two guns. Why does a pocket pistol need a 32 round magazine?! I want a 10 round mag for mine, and some Critical Defense rounds. Oughta be far more than sufficient.

'MERICA!

I can get Black Talon rounds for my wife's gun, a 32 round magazine, a laser-sight/flashlight combo, and a red dot sight.

I googled extended magazines for my two guns. Why does a pocket pistol need a 32 round magazine?! I want a 10 round mag for mine, and some Critical Defense rounds. Oughta be far more than sufficient.

There's a few reasons here. First, most gun manufacturers like to make their compact pistols accept the same mags as their larger offerings. So, there is a good chance that the 32 round magazines aren't specifically intended for your guns but will work in them.

Second, most compact pistols are chambered for .380 ACP or similar. This is a fairly low powered round, and has a statistically low stop rate in defensive situations, even with good shot placement. 10 rounds of good ammo is usually enough, but I can easily understand a desire for a bit more.

Yeah, mine is .380 and I want a ten round mag and Critical Defense hollowpoints. My wife has a 9mm. I'll probably get her some hollowpoints too.

[Gentlefish]

I was wondering at first why it didn't have a standard 10-round magazine. Then you said pocket.

The fun thing to note is that, even though you may have a 10-round magazine you can actually load 11 bullets if you chamber one. My father does this when he's on-duty. Which thankfully, he's never had to use.

[Tack]

Leaving a round chambered is an insane safety hazard, just saying.

[overseer05-15]

I thought hollowpoint bullets were illegal?

[Tack]

Not civilian, but yes military, but not US, but yes New Jersey.
Source: wiki

[Hanslanda]

Leaving a round chambered is an insane safety hazard, just saying.

An external safety helps mitigate that risk slightly but my gun hasn't got one. I only rack a round when I'm... Concerned.

Not civilian, but yes military, but not US, but yes New Jersey.
Source: wiki

This. Civilians can own hollowpoints and, depending on state and type, armor piercing rounds. Because Murica!

[Dunamisdeos]

America: Civilians can own bullets that are considered a war crime to use.

[GiglameshDespair]

Deer didn't sign the Geneva Convention.

[Kagus]

My dad had Hydra-Shok rounds for his pistol when we were living in Nevada. So, yes, they're legal enough to buy and own legally. At least some places.

And yes, keeping a round in the chamber when just carrying it is holy fuck what are you doing. External safeties are great, yes, but still... And isn't Glock becoming more and more widely adopted? They at least have a series that only uses the double-trigger safety. That's the kind my dad had, and similar ones were the issued sidearms in the Norwegian military, which is partly why we weren't allowed to handle them because greenhorns cannot be trusted with anything.

I mean, I thought it was kinda stupid when I first heard about it... We're soldiers for fuck's sake, you're not gonna let us touch guns? But then halfway through the year Skippy McDeepinshit managed to fire off a blank when standing to attention in the assembly plaza, and that was on a rifle which has an external safety... And which also can't cycle the chamber with the blanks we were given, because it couldn't generate enough pressure to push the bolt back, so you had to pull the derpy-ass ambidextrous modern bolt for every single round when we were on training missions.

God damn I hated that gun.

[Lord Shonus]

America: Civilians can own bullets that are considered a war crime to use.

Military and civilian scenarios are very different. A solid hit on a soldier is almost always enough to take him out of action even when it isn't a debilitating hit, and overpenetration is almost never a problem. Neithet of those is necessarily the case in civilian hunting or defensive use.

[Hanslanda]

America: Civilians can own bullets that are considered a war crime to use.

Full metal jacket or solid core rounds or just about the worst thing to shoot someone with. As far as the injury they just leave a small hole in you and punch right through. Unless you hit a vital organ they're relatively ineffective at incapacitating someone quickly. They kill really slow. Hollow points are much more effective at taking someone down immediately because they shred your internal organs wherever they hit you. You bleed out much much faster and overall have a much more Humane death.

[Il Palazzo]

America: Civilians can own bullets that are considered a war crime to use.

Full metal jacket or solid core rounds or just about the worst thing to shoot someone with. As far as the injury they just leave a small hole in you and punch right through. Unless you hit a vital organ they're relatively ineffective at incapacitating someone quickly. They kill really slow. Hollow points are much more effective at taking someone down immediately because they shred your internal organs wherever they hit you. You bleed out much much faster and overall have a much more Humane death.

This just in: more lethal weapons are more humane, because less lethal wounds are just as lethal.
What?

[Rockeater]

I know that IDF use Hollow point

[Dunamisdeos]

I believe the logic is that war should not be fought to kill every single person opposing you but to force surrender. If you shoot a dude in the chest and he can survive that and go home, that is preferable.

Same reason gassing huge swaths of troops and killing civilians is illegal.

[Tack]

More like: a fmj has a good chance of overpenetration which means collateral damage.
A hollowpoint is going to fuck up whoever you shoot it at, but the buck (haha) will stop with them, and it’s hopefully more likely to dissolve rather than ricochet if you miss.

The “hollow points are more humane because they shred you up” is a terrifying argument. A group of solid points are likely capable of causing shock on their own unless the target is hopped up on some variety of drugs i’m not qualified to guess at.


Edit: But yeah as above the rule of modern warfare seems to be “kill an enemy and you remove one man, wound an enemy and you remove three”.