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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #126810 on: September 19, 2017, 05:03:49 pm »

I don't think anybody said anyone died?

I rushed to clarify that before you read some wild misguided allegations from wherever it is you get your news on Russia. Cause there will be those.

Nah, pretty much all the early reports and echoes thereof were clear that nobody died. I probably should have clarified that as well.

That aside, this was part of a highly (and deliberately) propagandized series of war games. They want journos to be there - just the day before another component of it had Putin, 100+ journalists, and a number of foreign observers present. From what I've been able to dig up it looks like the people there weren't properly briefed on where the targets were. But given that they wanted people to be present to watch them flex their military muscles and that the location they were at was a cleared lot with multiple civilian vehicles parked there, I'm not really buying any sort of "they were random assholes who wandered into a closed firing range" line.
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« Reply #126811 on: September 19, 2017, 05:18:58 pm »

That video has educational value, in that it shows just exactly how fast helicopter missiles come at you. Forget dodging, just make sure you run for cover at the first distant sound of a helicopter.
What kind of maniac would you have to be to think you can dodge any kind of missile on foot in the first place?
I know, it's so much more effective to use your sword to cut open the detonator without exploding the missile.
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« Reply #126812 on: September 19, 2017, 05:23:22 pm »

That video has educational value, in that it shows just exactly how fast helicopter missiles come at you. Forget dodging, just make sure you run for cover at the first distant sound of a helicopter.
What kind of maniac would you have to be to think you can dodge any kind of missile on foot in the first place?
I know, it's so much more effective to use your sword to cut open the detonator without exploding the missile.
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« Reply #126813 on: September 19, 2017, 05:51:14 pm »

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« Reply #126814 on: September 19, 2017, 06:36:34 pm »

That video has educational value, in that it shows just exactly how fast helicopter missiles come at you. Forget dodging, just make sure you run for cover at the first distant sound of a helicopter.
What kind of maniac would you have to be to think you can dodge any kind of missile on foot in the first place?


This, so much. Missiles are designed to kill vehicles generally. Vehicles are generally designed to be MUCH FASTER than humans. You are NOT outrunning any sort of missile on foot, barring outrageously insane good luck.
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« Reply #126815 on: September 19, 2017, 06:38:28 pm »

Anti-vehicle weaponry? More like kill-that-dodging-bitch-weaponry from my Battlefield experiences.
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« Reply #126816 on: September 19, 2017, 07:14:34 pm »

I was speaking generally. LOOOOTS of missiles are designed as 'killing people on foot' weapons, but it doesn't change the fact that human max speed is what? 15 mph? And missiles' max speed is 'Hahahahahahahahaha, fuck your fifteen mph, asshole, eat metal and fire and die.'
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« Reply #126817 on: September 19, 2017, 07:17:27 pm »

I was speaking generally. LOOOOTS of missiles are designed as 'killing people on foot' weapons, but it doesn't change the fact that human max speed is what? 15 mph? And missiles' max speed is 'Hahahahahahahahaha, fuck your fifteen mph, asshole, eat metal and fire and die.'

I am aware of exactly one intentionally antipersonnel missile system, that being the Spike. How many is "LOOOOTS"?

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« Reply #126818 on: September 19, 2017, 07:28:32 pm »

How many Spikes did they manufacture?
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« Reply #126819 on: September 19, 2017, 07:30:50 pm »

I was speaking generally. LOOOOTS of missiles are designed as 'killing people on foot' weapons, but it doesn't change the fact that human max speed is what? 15 mph? And missiles' max speed is 'Hahahahahahahahaha, fuck your fifteen mph, asshole, eat metal and fire and die.'
Well yeah, I'd imagine people IRL aren't as good at dodging bullets.
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« Reply #126820 on: September 19, 2017, 08:56:47 pm »

Okay so there's three things here:

Unguided rockets, AKA rockets: are generally used on people and buildings.  Not practical against vehicles since in most cases a guided projectile or a cannon would do better.
Rockets guided into a specific target, AKA missiles: Generally used on vehicles, since why use an expensive guidance system on a person or a stationary structure?  The exception is the US with its widespread use of hellfire missiles and "precision bombing".  Because of course.
Rockets firing from two countries over, AKA missiles: Generally designed to take out buildings or nuke cities.  No point calling one into a battle since the situation will have changed by the time it arrives.

So yeah.  In layman's terms, most missiles are fired by artillery or aircraft, towards ground forces.  But *technically* those would be called rockets.
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« Reply #126821 on: September 19, 2017, 10:22:44 pm »

That video has educational value, in that it shows just exactly how fast helicopter missiles come at you. Forget dodging, just make sure you run for cover at the first distant sound of a helicopter.
What kind of maniac would you have to be to think you can dodge any kind of missile on foot in the first place?


This, so much. Missiles are designed to kill vehicles generally. Vehicles are generally designed to be MUCH FASTER than humans. You are NOT outrunning any sort of missile on foot, barring outrageously insane good luck.
That isn't entirely true. The earliest generation of "guided" missiles had to fly slow enough that the operator could steer them, and thus were fairly dodgeable. Such weapons are wholly obsolete in most armies, but still show up from time to time in backwater conflicts.

You're correct regarding any modern missile system, of course.
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« Reply #126822 on: September 20, 2017, 02:07:36 am »

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« Reply #126823 on: September 20, 2017, 02:31:29 am »

Careful. That might just end up in the out of context thread there.


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« Reply #126824 on: September 20, 2017, 10:34:46 am »

That isn't entirely true. The earliest generation of "guided" missiles had to fly slow enough that the operator could steer them, and thus were fairly dodgeable. Such weapons are wholly obsolete in most armies, but still show up from time to time in backwater conflicts.

You're correct regarding any modern missile system, of course.
I mean if you were literally looking directly at the launch of a TOW missile and you instantly recognized the threat and what you needed to do you could probably get to cover, if not get on target and suppress or knock out the emplacement, before the impact but that's the closest realistic example I can think of.
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