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Author Topic: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O  (Read 14843274 times)

Neonivek

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #116865 on: January 19, 2017, 03:37:44 pm »

I mean I just loathe how many times police procedural shows in the US resort to trying to trick the accused (I won't say criminals... because the show seems to forget the difference) into giving up their rights.

Just a tip ALL LEGAL SHOWS IN THE UNIVERSE!!! A Lawyer is not scum for defending a client and a client isn't scum for getting a lawyer.

Which is ESPECIALLY Ironic... because how many of these shows (heck even Luke Cage) involve the police and lawyers screwing people over, bending/breaking the law, or tricking/instigating/harassing/attacking the accused/witnesses? If I was in that universe I'd want a Lawyer strapped to my freeken back!
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« Reply #116866 on: January 19, 2017, 03:38:06 pm »

Found myself idly wondering today whether it is currently possible anywhere to take a mortgage out on one's kidneys.
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« Reply #116867 on: January 19, 2017, 03:39:26 pm »

It's not that black and white though Neonivek. In the real world, scum lawyers do exist too. They're just not as overrepresented as in the series.

Found myself idly wondering today whether it is currently possible anywhere to take a mortgage out on one's kidneys.
In most countries, selling your own organs is illegal. So mortgaging them would be as well.
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« Reply #116868 on: January 19, 2017, 03:40:56 pm »

In today's news, crime shows suck, everyone hates lionjesus and NJW2000 ponders engaging in organ trafficking, more at 11.

And I, for one, can confirm that scum lawyers do exist in real life, having known some, but they're very overrepresented. In fact, I've met some positively saintly lawyers, more then scum types, too.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #116869 on: January 19, 2017, 03:43:51 pm »

This isn't something that made me go WTF directly. It's more the fact that I made someone else go WTF.

My partner and I are setting up a D&D campaign, part of which involves a demiplane which is a copy of a previous era. We were texting back and forth on how this actually worked.

This lead to the perfectly reasonably question of how one actually went about cloning the terrain of entirely separate timeline. A one line question to which I replied with this:

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« Reply #116870 on: January 19, 2017, 03:45:14 pm »

Just watch The Wire you colossal dinks.
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« Reply #116871 on: January 19, 2017, 03:46:25 pm »

It's not that black and white though Neonivek. In the real world, scum lawyers do exist too. They're just not as overrepresented as in the series.

It is incredibly that black and white in this case martinuzz... Because a "Scum lawyer" is a lawyer who does scummy things.

So lets open up the list of things that shows SHOW a Scummy Lawyer doing
-Defending their clients
-Not allowing the police to stomp on their rights using basic rule of law
-Following the laws set for how lawyers should and should not act.
-Not providing their client with terrible defense

At least that is the case 99% of the time. I can count on one hand the number of times a scummy lawyer in a police procedural show was an actual scummy lawyer (Such as one where he was implicit in the crime he was defending and used his lawyer status to ferry illegal messages... Or another where he bribed the jury in secret and killed off witnesses... There two).

I wouldn't care if these shows had ACTUAL Scummy Lawyers... It is a TV show, of course narrative causality means they are going to bump into every scummy lawyer in the universe.

Yet the actual crime these Lawyers commit according to the show... The thing that makes them a "Scummy Lawyer who is hurting AMERICA and JUSTICE!" IS!!!!!!!... Being against our heroes and doing a good job.
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« Reply #116872 on: January 19, 2017, 03:50:14 pm »

oh, okay. You're right in that respect. I must have misunderstood the gist of your post.
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« Reply #116873 on: January 19, 2017, 03:51:17 pm »

Yet the actual crime these Lawyers commit according to the show... The thing that makes them a "Scummy Lawyer who is hurting AMERICA and JUSTICE!" IS!!!!!!!... Being against our heroes and doing a good job.

Lawyers just make good designated villains, because everyone has been screwed by a "scummy lawyer" at some point, meaning a lawyer who won for the other guy.
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« Reply #116874 on: January 19, 2017, 05:34:36 pm »

There are some decent tract novels; Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality comes to mind. The litmus test for those tends to be "Does the villain make sense and is he sympathetic as more than a strawman?"
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #116875 on: January 19, 2017, 05:46:08 pm »

Castle is a good police show b/c it's funny and Malcolm Reynolds is the main character
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #116876 on: January 19, 2017, 05:59:12 pm »

There are some decent tract novels; Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality comes to mind. The litmus test for those tends to be "Does the villain make sense and is he sympathetic as more than a strawman?"
Every time someone unironically praises HPMOR and the rationalist-fic crowd in general a puppy gets run over by a car.
Man, I liked HPMOR, some parts were a bit unreasonably grimdark, and yes, I did get bored and left around the point where the troll came and attacked Hermione, but it wasn't that terrible, the intersection of our current concepts of reality intersecting and fighting with the laws of magic I found funny, and I always found the little interludes away from Harry fun.

Hrm, not that great of a recommendation now that I look back at it.
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« Reply #116877 on: January 19, 2017, 06:07:09 pm »

Getting bored maybe halfway through the first book? Yeah, I'd say that isn't exactly a stirring endorsement.
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« Reply #116878 on: January 19, 2017, 06:43:47 pm »

I am thinking that maybe I should start remaking threads that TCs shut down.

Because the majority of the time it is that they are tired of the conversation and not the people in the thread.

Which, of course, I fully expect the TCs to complain but in a "If I am not the one with the thread, no one is" sort of way.
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« Reply #116879 on: January 19, 2017, 07:02:55 pm »

Top... comment?  Oh, thread creator.  Sorry, I'm more used to OP or even FP.
I don't think there's anything wrong with recreating a thread that the creator shuts down, only if Toady does.
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