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[Flying Dice]

"Fam" is cancer.

Most slang is. I'd still be calling everyone ddde but the young'uns' shit annoys people more. Unless they use it unironically, then older material is better, dig?

[scriver]

I thought "lit" meant high, as in on drugs. Possibly from "having lit (and smoked) a joint".

[Shadowlord]

lit means literal you philistines

[Yoink]

I've mostly seen/heard lit (as an adjective) used interchangeably with words like "dope", "sweet", "dank", "sick" or "rad".   

Sweet is probably my go-to out of those, although dope sadly comes a close second and I'd love to start saying "rad" more often. "Lit" is fairly douchey, though.

[hops]

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This looks like a photo I'd find in Sara Is Missing.

[SOLDIER First]

"Fam" is cancer.

Most slang is. I'd still be calling everyone ddde but the young'uns' shit annoys people more. Unless they use it unironically, then older material is better, dig?

That's not very lit of you, fams.

[Tack]

Was watching Moana stuff, and was like 'Maui... That seems like a tongan/maori thing'.

Then I found out it was Tongan, Maori, Hawaiian, Samaoan, Mangraevan and Tahitian.
Like seriously how far did the polynesians travel?

But I did find it a bit annoying that once again the pacific gets a pacific-themed movie so much later than the rest of America.

[scriver]

Supposedly they colonized south America, didn't they?

[Descan]

Then I found out it was Tongan, Maori, Hawaiian, Samaoan, Mangraevan and Tahitian.
Like seriously how far did the polynesians travel?

What? Um... Everywhere? They're called Pacific Islanders for a reason, they're pretty much on every island.

Supposedly they colonized south America, didn't they?

What

[Tack]

If they even reached it with canoes, I'd be more impressed than I was with the vinland vikings.
But I very much doubt they colonised it. Peruvian/Argentinian indigenous culture seems completely different, and New Zealand was apparently colonised by them in 1200AD, so they didn't have long before south america probably would've been seeing some Spaniards.

Like seriously how far did the polynesians travel?

What? Um... Everywhere? They're called Pacific Islanders for a reason, they're pretty much on every island.

Yeah but I've been playing a lot of Hearts of Iron and it takes a damn long time to move modern boats between those islands.
Because clearly games are real life.

[Descan]

Well, yeah it took forever (months or years of island hopping, in fact, and since they were the first, I'm sure that many many times more outriggers ended up floating off into the sunset because they didn't really know where they were going) but you only need a couple families to reach it once to colonize it permanently. Which then, a couple generations later, sent off their own wayward sons. Pacific Islander spread took hundreds, if not thousands of years. It's why their languages are related but not exactly (or nearly exactly) the same, like the British colonies languages are.

[ein]

easter island (rapa nui) very much was colonised by polynesians

i don't remember if they colonised the mainland but there is evidence that they traded with the mainland nations

[Lord Shonus]

easter island (rapa nui) very much was colonised by polynesians

i don't remember if they colonised the mainland but there is evidence that they traded with the mainland nations

There are six claims of evidence to support contact.

The presence of Sweet Potatoes in Polynesia is a fairly solid one, assuming that the sweet potato is accurately believed to be an American plant. There is all but conclusive evidence to support the Pre-Columbian presence of the plant, but it is possible that it was spread by non-human means.

The other solid claim is that Peruvian mummies have been found to be preserved with the sap of a specific sort of tree that is only known to grow in the South Pacific. The specific example tested is dated to around AD 1200. This is the solidest bit of evidence, as any non-human means of transport would have resulted in the actual tree being present. The alternative theory is that the tree used to be present but died out.

Linguistically, there are two words -the one for axe and the one for sweet potato- that are very similar in South American languages and Polynesian ones. This could be evidence of contact, but could also be a coincidence. That the word for sweet potato is one of the two (and the stronger connection) does support it as evidence, given that the sweet potato is also considered evidence of contact.

There are some trace genetic similarities between the peoples of South America and those of Polynesia, but they are too weak to suggest colonization. The possibility that these result from trade missions is a sound one, however.

The other two commonly cited evidences have been debunked. A few California tribes operated a similar type of canoe to that used by the Polynesians (and dissimilar to that of other Amerindian tribes), but there is too much evidence of them developing the things for it to have been a copy. It was once thought that the chickens used in both places were related, with one group getting them from the other, but DNA testing has proved this to be false. Polynesia got their chickens from Asia, while the Americas had a native variety.

In short, there is some evidence to suggest Pre-Columbian contact, but there's not enough to prove it.

[milo christiansen]

Coming soon to the internet near you: Pirates of the Caribbean!

Literally...

[Shadowlord]

Fully legally compliant!