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Author Topic: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O  (Read 14839024 times)

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #106335 on: July 21, 2016, 04:10:12 pm »

Except in that metaphor, the custom park benches are like more secure doors.
Of course the police should still stop the chainsaw-dudes, just like our actual services should help the homeless.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #106336 on: July 21, 2016, 04:17:51 pm »

I did NOT realise orange and lemon trees had spines.

Backfired when one of the bastards jabbed me in the finger.
There are trees that make oranges and lemons? To the tree thread! (IIRC, wasn't there that one guy who essentially wove multiple saplings together to create one Treeking that was of multiple species in one?)

we have a tree thread?
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #106337 on: July 21, 2016, 04:19:39 pm »

Firefox isn't letting me close tabs. I've got no idea why and it's bugging me. Anyway, I would have thought that the best way to reduce homelessness would be to make it easier for homeless people to not be homeless. Not, not letting them sleep on benches. But I don't actually know much about this stuff so there's a decent chance I'm wrong.
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« Reply #106338 on: July 21, 2016, 04:21:46 pm »

So, how does that help the homeless people not be homeless anymore, exactly?
I think the idea is to make them less troublesome to the rest of the population...
Then again, I haven't been able to read the actual link. I'm on my phone. Will probably look later, with my laptop.


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Then at some point I believe he lost his legs and built a gigantic robot suit, possibly out of corpses.
And later on there was some bizarre, old-timey slapstick comedy where a bunch of bumbling explorers managed to repeatedly fend off giant bees, deflect musket balls and otherwise escape death, mostly by throwing stuff.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #106339 on: July 21, 2016, 04:24:54 pm »

that sounds awesome. why can I have dreams like that?
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #106340 on: July 21, 2016, 04:44:05 pm »

I did NOT realise orange and lemon trees had spines.

Backfired when one of the bastards jabbed me in the finger.
There are trees that make oranges and lemons? To the tree thread! (IIRC, wasn't there that one guy who essentially wove multiple saplings together to create one Treeking that was of multiple species in one?)

we have a tree thread?

Yes.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=149814.msg6136224#msg6136224
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #106341 on: July 21, 2016, 04:50:14 pm »

But then again its well established how detrimental a homeless population hanging around areas can be.  For business, for property values, for crime rates, for sanitation, for blight, for et al
1. Caused by public perception. 2. Caused by public perception. 3. ??? (I must research this, although some homeless people may work as spotters). 4. If the homeless cannot use a public restroom. 5. Public perception, vandalism by the homeless and hooligans, etc..
I take it you've never worked or lived in a city with a lot of homeless people. Especially one where a good number of them are homeless because they're minor offenders that the jails didn't have room to hold or mentally ill people who aren't getting treatment and/or skipped off their medication. You've never had some disturbed guy hang around all day every day stalking children, never had someone scream and spit at you because you wouldn't let them turn your workplace into an apartment, never had your wallet snatched when you were dumb enough to help out a panhandler, never given someone money for a sandwich or bus fare and watched them go off into a liquor store (or worse).

Sympathy is good. But it's a problem that needs to be addressed on a societal level, on the level of providing accessible and decent mental health care, work programs to help people get back on their feet, services for the disabled, a VA that doesn't systematically hide and marginalize crippled veterans, shit like that. Saying, "Oh, it's so cruel to not let people sleep on city benches..." is completely missing the point. Perpetuating homelessness is not helping. If you really cared that much, you'd be volunteering or helping to fund a shelter instead of whining about cities doing stuff like that as if you had the moral high ground.

It's also damned hard to have sympathy for some of these people when you talk to them about services for the homeless and they complain about shit like having to check in at a shelter by 4pm or so if they want dinner and a bed there that night.

Maybe it's different abroad. I don't remember this sort of thing happening in NZ, Oz, or Scotland--not that I didn't see homeless folks, but that half of them didn't seem to be trying to con you into giving them money for drugs or alcohol, or two bad minutes away from trying to stab you for change. :I
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #106342 on: July 21, 2016, 04:53:32 pm »



vagrancy as a crime is an old law/practice. 
So is persecuting ethnic minorities, homosexuals, and forcing people to practice your One True Faith© (or else)
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« Reply #106343 on: July 21, 2016, 05:09:13 pm »



vagrancy as a crime is an old law/practice. 
So is persecuting ethnic minorities, homosexuals, and forcing people to practice your One True Faith© (or else)

Well homosexuals are only homosexual because we let them. (wow even as a satire it hurt to say that)
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #106344 on: July 21, 2016, 05:12:53 pm »

Im not trying to justify its continuation.  Im pointing out that its not suddenly happening or suddenly getting worse.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #106345 on: July 21, 2016, 05:58:10 pm »

what if someone who has a home wants to take a nap in the park D:
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« Reply #106346 on: July 21, 2016, 06:53:18 pm »

If I'm that drunk I'd generally be okay with sleeping on the ground/floor/whatever. :P
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #106347 on: July 21, 2016, 07:05:34 pm »

That's the other secret, all those benches just make it awkward and uncomfortable, not impossible.

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But yeah, this conversation is emblematic of our age. What we have: complex social issues with multiple sources and contributing factors. What we get: piecemeal band-aid treatment of some of the symptoms. What people paint it as: a bipolar right/wrong single-point issue which can be fixed by lazily addressing the most obvious symptom.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #106348 on: July 21, 2016, 07:28:15 pm »

People have always done that though
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« Reply #106349 on: July 21, 2016, 07:51:57 pm »

its money, time, and community specific planning.

and that most feasible solutions ultimately involve physical segregation
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